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World's power-grid cyber breach traced to notorious Chinese crew

The Register -- An espionage attack on Telvent - the maker of power-grid control systems and smart meters - has been linked to a prolific Chinese hacking crew.

Telvent, a division of Schneider Electric, has admitted hackers breached its corporate network, implanted malicious software and lifted sensitive project files. The raid spanned Telvent systems in the US, Canada and Spain according to a letter sent to the company's customers this month.

Criminals can now study the documents for vulnerabilities in the systems, and potentially devise attacks to sabotage nations' electricity distribution networks.

Telvent boasts that it has "built a customer base second to none in the energy industry", adding: "Our systems now manage over 60 percent of the total hydrocarbon movements in North and Latin Americ

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FJCruiserCA All-Star Author California Posts:517 Points:325,800 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 8:49:26 AM Ignore FJCruiserCA Report Abuse ok
CostControl Champion Author San Antonio Posts:13,389 Points:2,033,325 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 11:37:46 PM Ignore CostControl Report Abuse M.A.D = Mutual Assured Destruction worked against The Soviet Union & MUST be used in The War on Terror & against ANY country who does us harm! IF China was to try to shut DOWN the grid all that means is that their BIGGEST BUYER OF CHINA GOODS CANNOT BUY THEM! Game Playing is at work here!
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ramshot412 Champion Author Riverside Posts:20,170 Points:2,469,390 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 11:07:48 PM Ignore ramshot412 Report Abuse Speaking of RobneyCare, it has been discovered that once you reach 70 and go into the emergency room and need emergency surgery, a board must first meet to go over your case to first decide if you to pay for the surgery, then once it is decided you do another board must meet to determine if you are of the 'right' class to be worthy of getting it.
ron98146 Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,584 Points:967,430 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 11:04:31 PM Ignore ron98146 Report Abuse what does this have to do with gas prices?
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,588 Points:1,774,820 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 11:00:55 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Chinese government sponsored hacking. China is not our friend.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,003 Points:1,115,215 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:54:13 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Ticoman54: "These hackers need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law..." Hard to prosecute someone in China???
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bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,792 Points:646,535 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:52:03 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse China should not try any kind of attack - cyber or otherwise - on the U.S.
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Ticoman54 Champion Author Miami Posts:7,051 Points:1,494,495 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:44:23 PM Ignore Ticoman54 Report Abuse These hackers need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...
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Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,436 Points:426,800 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:38:42 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Thank goodness that President Barack Hussein Obama never got his national grid across America.
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:504,980 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:34:27 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse It's a attack plan and simple.
stopforgas All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:996 Points:481,705 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:33:54 PM Ignore stopforgas Report Abuse The Chinese are criminals. We shouldn't be sending them a single nickle. I'd rather pay twice the price of everything I buy to keep from helping build their economy.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,937 Points:1,577,905 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:32:08 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse consider it a terroristic attack
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,213 Points:874,085 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:27:33 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse This is the terrorism.
kbierley Champion Author Dayton Posts:10,730 Points:1,415,690 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:23:16 PM Ignore kbierley Report Abuse So, are these folk working for the China Gov?
vangobrown Rookie Author Wilmington Posts:56 Points:307,745 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:21:41 PM Ignore vangobrown Report Abuse Proves we all cannot just get along, they got us by the throat.
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kingpin6 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:2,920 Points:1,561,725 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:19:11 PM Ignore kingpin6 Report Abuse Hackers get get into most any system!
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,815 Points:821,260 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:18:49 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Sounds like we need an EMP hand grenade to use in China...
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unicornIL Veteran Author Chicago Posts:446 Points:387,895 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:17:29 PM Ignore unicornIL Report Abuse technology how easy to use and how easy to circumvent
camaro_man Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:2,247 Points:613,970 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:15:51 PM Ignore camaro_man Report Abuse them dang hackers....
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Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,855 Points:644,455 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 3:48:10 PM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . They will get their just reward when the Dollar collapses in March of 2013 after the Liar in Chief is re-elected and Taxes go up and ObamaCare kicks in! Speaking of ObamaCare, it has been discovered that once you reach 70 and go into the emergency room and need emergency surgery, a board must first meet to go over your case to first decide if you should get the surgery, then once it is decided your case warrens the surgery another board must meet to determine if you are worthy of getting it, if either board says NO, and the hospital goes ahead with the surgery, they will not get paid! What do YOU think the Hospital is going to do?!
sdslim Champion Author Florida Posts:1,891 Points:1,712,715 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 1:06:33 PM Ignore sdslim Report Abuse Have them hack Iran nuclear facilities.
DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:13,732 Points:2,117,060 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:31:43 PM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse it's only going to get worse.
Pseudotriton Rookie Author Toronto Posts:6 Points:5,170 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:28:16 PM Ignore Pseudotriton Report Abuse I'd be totally surprised if there aren't some American hackers also doing the same to the power-grids of China or some other countries that the US don't like.
evowner Champion Author Salem Posts:2,197 Points:361,435 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:04:54 PM Ignore evowner Report Abuse Important story.
67CTD All-Star Author Tucson Posts:555 Points:144,130 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 11:49:02 AM Ignore 67CTD Report Abuse of course... Who else would it be?
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jimgraham Champion Author Akron Posts:10,384 Points:1,982,075 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:36:40 AM Ignore jimgraham Report Abuse Why don't they breach all the Wall Street "investment" bankers, oil speculators, computer traders, LIBOR and other money market thieves and expose the truth and connections behind all the crooks running them? THAT would bring down governments and their billionaire handlers all over the world!!! I guess they don't want to do any "pro se" public service announcements!
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