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When electric vehicles make dollars and sense for fleets

Torque News -- FleetAnswers has discovered a combination of uncertain fuel prices, regulations, and reduced operating costs resulting from the smart application of electric vehicles suggests promising returns for certain firms.

These conclusions were arrived at following a webinar session organized by FleetAnswers and The Electrification Coalition. During the session, representatives of FedEx Express, Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E), and Dow Kokam shared ways electrification has made economic sense for their companies. The secret seems to be overcoming barriers to electrification with innovative solutions, according to FedEx Express and PG&E.

With unstable fuel prices and the recent economy, both FedEx Express and PG&E see electrification as a favorable strategy in managing costs. Dave Meisel, direct

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Submitted Oct 04, 2012 By: aservant

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remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,943 Points:2,112,640 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 7:39:05 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Should make sense now... for commercial fleets in city traffic.
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,523 Points:743,820 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 7:19:07 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse very seldom
mrselfdestruct All-Star Author Arkansas Posts:976 Points:163,450 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 2:57:53 AM Ignore mrselfdestruct Report Abuse Still don't know why diesel hybrids are great for trains, not on otr semis?
evowner Champion Author Salem Posts:2,156 Points:354,285 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 11:05:23 PM Ignore evowner Report Abuse We love our Leaf. The haters of EVs, the US government, EPA, and The President are the same individuals.
geezrtek Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,886 Points:427,735 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 6:34:27 PM Ignore geezrtek Report Abuse Good Show - let the MBAs chew on the numbers and decide for electric if it will make a profit for the company and not based on a virtuous warm and fuzzy feeling.
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,924 Points:1,011,645 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 11:28:17 AM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse I love the instant acceleration of electric.
RUNNINONEMPTYFL Champion Author Florida Posts:1,403 Points:459,625 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 11:02:55 AM Ignore RUNNINONEMPTYFL Report Abuse Still too costly...
md11capt Champion Author Denver Posts:3,548 Points:706,730 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:58:25 AM Ignore md11capt Report Abuse If batteries become lighter, last longer, and are cheaper plus electric motors are probably cheaper to maintain EV fleets will save corporations big $$$$$$$.
eschroth442 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,064 Points:328,220 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:33:23 AM Ignore eschroth442 Report Abuse move to CNG it's more efficient
mitt4prez Champion Author Tacoma Posts:1,727 Points:1,242,150 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:19:43 AM Ignore mitt4prez Report Abuse Take the govt dough away, and no more electric vehicles. So: take the govt dough away. Get rid of graft for cronies.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,630 Points:1,866,100 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 9:23:05 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse TIme to force all Full size vans to go EV or CNG way.
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,327 Points:162,150 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 9:12:25 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse At their current prices and driving ranges they never will!
GetMaxCashBack Veteran Author Trenton Posts:386 Points:161,925 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:46:04 AM Ignore GetMaxCashBack Report Abuse EVs make sense for short routes. But I don't see it being used at night for the long-hauls.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,200 Points:868,375 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 7:42:53 AM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse Spend your money on hybrids versus EVs.
otherdave Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,373 Points:1,265,160 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 7:24:14 AM Ignore otherdave Report Abuse EV's just don't make sense.
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,130 Points:1,293,470 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 6:19:43 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse Our tax dollars at work helping companies save money.
pitamon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,889 Points:1,821,835 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 6:17:01 AM Ignore pitamon Report Abuse OK?
wamster Champion Author Houston Posts:4,232 Points:691,280 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 6:06:29 AM Ignore wamster Report Abuse With the stop and go lifestyle of the vehicles, this is certainly an energy saver. Don't forget fleet pricing too. They're saving a boat load of money now and literally down the road.
Straitliner Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,470 Points:233,300 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:19:25 AM Ignore Straitliner Report Abuse I'm for some type of solution the gas and oil but this electric vehicle fleet isnt going to work.
prcoqui Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,935 Points:1,669,425 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:13:57 AM Ignore prcoqui Report Abuse Good for them.
dongo50 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:14,666 Points:2,376,045 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:11:57 AM Ignore dongo50 Report Abuse i'd like to see them try it here.
dave364 Champion Author Lansing Posts:4,931 Points:1,433,460 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:07:12 AM Ignore dave364 Report Abuse good
1178richmond Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,871 Points:793,300 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:07:12 AM Ignore 1178richmond Report Abuse ok
74celica Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,410 Points:1,805,700 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:07:11 AM Ignore 74celica Report Abuse makes sense,will they do it?
remichal Champion Author Maine Posts:27,165 Points:2,753,035 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:06:28 AM Ignore remichal Report Abuse When they make one that has a 400 mile range without sacrificing trunk space I might consider one.
skippypa Champion Author Hawaii Posts:8,456 Points:1,736,930 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:06:03 AM Ignore skippypa Report Abuse Ok
Cachase1 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:11,430 Points:2,376,105 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:05:46 AM Ignore Cachase1 Report Abuse Try it, and see how it goes.
forderjunk Champion Author Maine Posts:10,643 Points:2,172,085 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:04:05 AM Ignore forderjunk Report Abuse great idea for big companies like Fed Ex and UPS
swede Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,742 Points:1,671,025 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:03:31 AM Ignore swede Report Abuse They may get cheaper but who will deal with the batteries?
pfone1847 Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,166 Points:619,580 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:02:52 AM Ignore pfone1847 Report Abuse Hmmm
dar 1 Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,877 Points:445,320 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 5:02:43 AM Ignore dar 1 Report Abuse They will get better and cheaper.
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:13,530 Points:2,713,775 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:56:45 AM Ignore Lengas Report Abuse Do it.
stratlinetime Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,257 Points:559,755 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:56:23 AM Ignore stratlinetime Report Abuse Ok
smenzel Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,035 Points:1,100,930 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:55:55 AM Ignore smenzel Report Abuse Excellent
LeeFree Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:9,131 Points:2,239,450 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:54:55 AM Ignore LeeFree Report Abuse No EV in my immediate future.
gabisgram Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,176 Points:908,250 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:52:07 AM Ignore gabisgram Report Abuse Too expensive for the average American.
kirzon484 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,841 Points:428,610 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:50:37 AM Ignore kirzon484 Report Abuse k
DavidsChallenge All-Star Author Louisville Posts:635 Points:125,805 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:49:43 AM Ignore DavidsChallenge Report Abuse Not going to happen.
jeff95519 Champion Author California Posts:2,432 Points:1,350,240 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:49:24 AM Ignore jeff95519 Report Abuse green isn't cheap
Petrock Champion Author Lexington Posts:9,103 Points:2,553,760 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:48:06 AM Ignore Petrock Report Abuse Until gasoline and diesel prices get high enough, electric cars and trucks will remain a hard-sell. But don't worry, just vote for Obama. We can get there sooner than you think!!!
sent4456 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,313 Points:2,121,945 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:47:46 AM Ignore sent4456 Report Abuse ?????
ILVET Champion Author Illinois Posts:14,774 Points:2,921,615 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:47:44 AM Ignore ILVET Report Abuse Out of the pot and into the pan!
neptune2008 Champion Author Michigan Posts:8,557 Points:1,665,930 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:47:41 AM Ignore neptune2008 Report Abuse good idea(s)
Dailyrun Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,957 Points:383,865 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:47:04 AM Ignore Dailyrun Report Abuse This is a good plan.
bama56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,602 Points:1,389,815 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:46:04 AM Ignore bama56 Report Abuse good news
bama56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,602 Points:1,389,815 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:45:46 AM Ignore bama56 Report Abuse ok
7SPEEDY7 Champion Author Flint Posts:1,271 Points:601,675 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:44:09 AM Ignore 7SPEEDY7 Report Abuse Really?
mar2100 Veteran Author Cleveland Posts:348 Points:16,925 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:43:08 AM Ignore mar2100 Report Abuse Ditto DblChek
Z06KY Champion Author Louisville Posts:5,124 Points:901,715 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:43:05 AM Ignore Z06KY Report Abuse Great a story about failed electric cars just after we read a refinery is being challenged in court. This will be much worst if Obama is re-elected. He will keep the gas prices us and back more electric cars. But will shut down the clean coal plants that provide cheap power for the electricity we use. A loser any way you look at it!!!!!!!!!!!!
DblChek Champion Author San Antonio Posts:2,341 Points:613,390 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:40:21 AM Ignore DblChek Report Abuse Not for me. Drill Here. Refine Here. Sell Here. Employ Here.