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The Gas Station of the Future Just Opened

Bloomberg BusinessWeek -- Matt Horton wants to solve a problem that makes alternative-fuel vehicles unappealing to would-be buyers: lack of convenient places to refuel. Last month, the chief executive officer of Propel Fuels opened the country’s first station where drivers can pump gasoline, ethanol, and biodiesel, cyclists can get tune-ups, and commuters can find public transit schedules. Backed by more than $19 million in venture capital and nearly $12 million in grants from the U.S. Department of Energy and the California Energy Commission, the 23-person Redwood City (Calif.) startup received yesterday an additional, $10.1 million grant from the commission to help build 100 stations around the state in the next four years.

With its alternative-fuel pumps at about two dozen other stations.....

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Submitted Jun 02, 2012 By: StanleyCup

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,834 Points:1,638,195 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 4:58:17 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse CA needs the diversified energy source stations. They have been mostly the trailblazers for different and often improved things. Thankfully, some stuff did not make it out of CA though...
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,606 Points:2,374,185 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 3, 2012 5:40:45 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse More taxpayer money as subsidies that should NOT be spent and will have to be repaid by taxpayers. If there is a need for different vehicle fuels or energy then there will be a demand by the driving public for them and present gas stations can provide that option as the demand increases. I see no mention of CNG as a fuel option. Also, I drive by a Walgreen’s that has an EV charging station, I have never seen an EV or Inbred being charged yet. At another major grocery and department store the parking stalls for charging EV's and Inbreds are used as parking spots by regular vehicles. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible! The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
armey Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,296 Points:310,555 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:15:40 PM Ignore armey Report Abuse OK!
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,094,825 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:13:56 PM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse Not interested.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,639 Points:1,538,755 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:12:14 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Another subsidy for something no one wants except the gummint.
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,100 Points:861,380 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:10:44 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse Ok.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,706 Points:2,473,455 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:08:32 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse nothing wrong with using gasoline--same as last 100 years...if it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT.
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:31,303 Points:2,634,665 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:06:08 PM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse Keep the internal combustion engine fueled by fossil fuel.
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,684 Points:715,755 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:05:44 PM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse ok
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:02:39 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse go now
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:5,519 Points:1,498,200 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:02:06 PM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse another bad subsidy
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:01:43 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse opn it now
jessek Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,657 Points:1,280,490 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:57:26 PM Ignore jessek Report Abuse Why don't we just support every Tom, Dick, and Harry...seems like we're doing it anyway.
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,224 Points:1,417,780 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:53:31 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Does this really make sense?
Dsin44 Champion Author Abbotsford Posts:1,275 Points:276,195 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:53:18 PM Ignore Dsin44 Report Abuse I need a 10 million grant... I need it for a fueling station for electric cars. Plan on burning Bunk "C" as a fuel. First station next to Obama's house!
GrumpyCat Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,757 Points:810,870 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:49:43 PM Ignore GrumpyCat Report Abuse Sounds like a dark future reliant upon government grants.
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:577,230 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:49:37 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Sounds cool but at what costs
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,407 Points:616,610 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:48:13 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse Interesting....
Sody33 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:15,946 Points:1,870,860 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:47:30 PM Ignore Sody33 Report Abuse This idea is a long time arriving but I notice a lack of electric plug-ins for those little short distance cars that the electric car companies are building.
LOCKJOCK Rookie Author Orange County Posts:75 Points:343,525 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:46:09 PM Ignore LOCKJOCK Report Abuse They will most likely have maybe two of each pump.... If two or three cars are in line ahead of you; it may take a hour to refuel... What do you do for that hour????????? Sit in the heat or cold..!!! [Edited by: LOCKJOCK at 6/2/2012 11:49:32 PM EST]
crewsing Veteran Author Virginia Posts:391 Points:85,030 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:41:29 PM Ignore crewsing Report Abuse Seems expensive...
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:15,121 Points:1,469,045 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:41:13 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse Gas station of the future? Only if the ethanol and biodiesel do not use cropland. Corn and soybeans are for eating... not for fuel.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,817 Points:664,910 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:39:33 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Sounds like an inefficient socialist program.
gasgo123 Veteran Author South Carolina Posts:289 Points:1,795,790 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:39:25 PM Ignore gasgo123 Report Abuse Everyone should avoid this station and watch it fail, the government is tring to shove stuff down our throuts and make us pay for their pet projects.
nehemiah Champion Author Portland Posts:4,896 Points:958,090 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:36:06 PM Ignore nehemiah Report Abuse sad
soncorn Veteran Author Missouri Posts:286 Points:1,319,495 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:35:24 PM Ignore soncorn Report Abuse Ahh, more taxpayer dollars being stolen from many and given to a few.
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:5,086 Points:1,211,435 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:32:03 PM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse I'm for cng
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,041 Points:800,945 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:28:41 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse Stop ethanol in NC
Soglaos Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:2,851 Points:765,405 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:25:38 PM Ignore Soglaos Report Abuse Another government hand out. Stop the handouts
jad1960 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,575 Points:423,780 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:25:35 PM Ignore jad1960 Report Abuse Now thats different.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,890 Points:1,937,035 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:25:24 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse 'FUTURE'? Does not include cng nor the probable Hydrogen! No 'future' there which is why the government is putting millions into it.
eswi Champion Author Madison Posts:2,686 Points:711,080 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:24:15 PM Ignore eswi Report Abuse OK
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,057 Points:1,601,705 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:22:10 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse $12 million in govenmental grants?
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,710 Points:1,540,805 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:19:35 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse No service just a cashier
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,127 Points:823,335 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:16:43 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse That money is gone.
1Casey Champion Author Albany Posts:6,636 Points:1,811,170 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:16:08 PM Ignore 1Casey Report Abuse Positive ?
bikerchicklette Champion Author Washington Posts:5,889 Points:1,300,745 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:14:55 PM Ignore bikerchicklette Report Abuse really ?
mgune9 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:914 Points:200,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:14:37 PM Ignore mgune9 Report Abuse what??? no mention of an outlet for natural gas in that government handout??
YKK All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:880 Points:2,166,015 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:11:19 PM Ignore YKK Report Abuse OK and Cool too
Rajah Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,642 Points:2,329,230 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:08:37 PM Ignore Rajah Report Abuse I hope they've got E0 as one of the choices on the fuel menu.
goalie1950 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:6,550 Points:1,324,120 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:05:32 PM Ignore goalie1950 Report Abuse Sounds like another pie-in-the-sky adventure with taxpayer money being used to fund these government grants. Another Obummer plan that will fail like all the other energy projects that have failed as of late.
BEGTWO Champion Author Maryland Posts:2,077 Points:751,915 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:04:08 PM Ignore BEGTWO Report Abuse COOL
TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,716 Points:605,975 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:00:56 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse anyone willing to bet the start up company will still be around in 5 years. probably more tax payer money down the drain. government is so easy a mark. if it such a great idea the venture capital should foot the whole bill.
darkknight1 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:4,480 Points:923,760 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:58:54 PM Ignore darkknight1 Report Abuse And where does the $10.1 million in grants come from?
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,214 Points:1,476,025 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:58:13 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Good to know California is still on the cutting edge of progress. [Edited by: PDQBlues at 6/2/2012 10:57:58 PM EST]
Goofoff Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,882 Points:2,177,200 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:55:20 PM Ignore Goofoff Report Abuse The $12 million in "GRANTS" means innovation that will help the economy
SpankyMI Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,836 Points:785,590 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:50:56 PM Ignore SpankyMI Report Abuse The $12 million in "GRANTS" means its a freebee, thanks to the U.S. Tax payers, again.
Crumbfel Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,554 Points:2,160,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:50:19 PM Ignore Crumbfel Report Abuse I read this article
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