drpepperTX

Champion Author
Texas
Posts:8,929 Points:750,035 Joined:Apr 2011
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 10:45:45 PM
The problem is shipping by rail vs pipeline costs about $3 per barrel more. Not to mention the increase in safety that pipelines have over rail.
|
northeast2

Champion Author
New York
Posts:3,849 Points:1,007,200 Joined:Mar 2008
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 10:06:10 PM
"Kringstad said 25 percent of the state’s oil production is moving by rail to primarily to coastal refineries. Two years ago, only a small percentage of the state’s crude was moving by rail.
In addition to Oklahoma, Texas and Louisiana, North Dakota crude began moving by rail last year to Washington state and New York, where it’s transferred by barge to Pennsylvania. In recent weeks, crude shipments have been sent west by rail to California, Kringstad said."
Imagine that! We already have the infrastructure to move oil without building a pipeline! An American industry (the railroads) can make money moving the product! We don't have to have a Canadian company taking land in Texas by eminent domain!
|
jjjleblanc

Champion Author
Rochester
Posts:5,862 Points:1,516,380 Joined:Jun 2008
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:24:28 PM
Yea!!
|
listerone

Champion Author
Boston
Posts:3,370 Points:876,065 Joined:Aug 2008
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 7:46:49 PM
During the campaign Osama Obama will announce the way he'll put a stop to this.The Dakotas and Montana are "red" states so he needn't worry about *that*.His tree worshiping voters (and donors) will *love* it!
|
SammyAdams

Champion Author
Tallahassee
Posts:3,043 Points:790,775 Joined:Nov 2010
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 5:51:40 PM
This is one of the success stories for "Free Market" capitalism and is exciting and inspirational to watch as it unfolds. BO might try to take credit for this unprecedented growth in North Dakota, but it more truthfully could be stated that this growth came about in spite of the administration's energy policies. Why don't we use North Dakota as an influence to restore the free enterprise market and cut down the Federal Behemoth to its Constitutional size?
|
Cakes77

Champion Author
Harrisburg
Posts:5,145 Points:1,649,720 Joined:Aug 2006
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 2:35:37 PM
A very helpful article here. Thanks for posting this.
|
Hop1LA

Champion Author
Baton Rouge
Posts:3,304 Points:1,174,545 Joined:Apr 2008
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 12:08:55 PM
I haven't notice gasoline getting cheaper as a result more domestic production.
|
w9med

Champion Author
Gary
Posts:1,128 Points:327,845 Joined:Aug 2011
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 10:19:32 AM
So have gas prices
|
JCI46009IN

Champion Author
Indiana
Posts:2,129 Points:439,570 Joined:Sep 2011
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 10:06:05 AM
Fantastic, hope this continues!
|
car253

Champion Author
Ohio
Posts:6,283 Points:1,466,670 Joined:Oct 2008
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 10:03:06 AM
Great news!
|
dougtaylor1

Champion Author
Phoenix
Posts:1,746 Points:444,750 Joined:Jun 2011
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:37:01 AM
Hey let's build a pipeline. Wait.....Obumer says no.
|
Night Owl

Champion Author
Toronto
Posts:7,540 Points:1,784,650 Joined:Jul 2004
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:32:02 AM
Good going, North Dakota.
|
JLSindy

Champion Author
Cleveland
Posts:3,481 Points:671,315 Joined:Aug 2005
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:30:24 AM
Prices will continue to go up!! ....even with increased supply!!
|
bikerchicklette

Champion Author
Washington
Posts:5,889 Points:1,296,470 Joined:Sep 2005
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:22:50 AM
interesting
|
bowler300MO

Champion Author
Missouri
Posts:1,983 Points:870,265 Joined:Mar 2010
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:22:22 AM
supply and demand? more supply but prices go up?? demand lets see I can buy all I want at 4.50 a gallon
|
TableTalk

Champion Author
Virginia
Posts:1,184 Points:557,200 Joined:Nov 2008
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:17:16 AM
Nice to see supply and demand at work. With the lack of pipelines headed east from the Dakotas, they use the next best thing which increases the risk of spills and pollution. A pipeline would be expensive and thus the cost/benefit pushes the transport medium to rail/barge for the time being. One should expect prices of refined oil products (gas, etc.) on the east coast to rise as the refineries up there (NJ) get shut down. Tough economic decisions. It would seem that the oil would run out before the pipeline would pay for itself hence the reason for not building it to cut the transportation costs.
|
olebufnav

Champion Author
Omaha
Posts:3,960 Points:1,020,305 Joined:Nov 2008
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:12:26 AM
Go DAKS....!
|
Skunk63

Champion Author
Phoenix
Posts:2,551 Points:556,525 Joined:Oct 2011
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:04:27 AM
Drill, baby.
|
fuel2use

Champion Author
Seattle
Posts:3,473 Points:730,400 Joined:Dec 2010
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:04:09 AM
Have them put the money in the infrastructure.
|
bodu

All-Star Author
Vancouver
Posts:906 Points:279,310 Joined:Mar 2009
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:55:32 AM
Does the infrastructure exist? Will it hold?
|
TruthMatters

Champion Author
New Jersey
Posts:2,515 Points:532,260 Joined:Oct 2011
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:52:30 AM
Bakken crude not making a dent here in NJ - prices are already sky high and still climbing!
|
12mpgnavigator

Champion Author
Seattle
Posts:2,764 Points:648,985 Joined:Jun 2009
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:45:54 AM
go ND!, drill baby, drill!
|
Jizme

Champion Author
Lincoln
Posts:9,866 Points:2,902,850 Joined:Oct 2004
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:45:43 AM
You Go Girls!
|
VomVom

Champion Author
Calgary
Posts:3,857 Points:1,627,080 Joined:May 2007
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:45:08 AM
The oil is land locked. There is insufficient pipeline capacity to ship the oil to market. the S Dakota refinery won't be operational until 2017.
|
EXTREMESNOW

Champion Author
Medford
Posts:8,905 Points:1,820,465 Joined:Jul 2006
|
Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:42:48 AM
Congrats.
|