honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 5:54:02 AM
melvin: too many ppl were when he claimed that he would run for president. And some ppl even believed him when he (after proof) still claimed that the current president is not US born.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 5:47:51 AM
melvin: too many ppl were when he claimed that he would run for president. And some ppl even believed him when he (after proof) still claimed that the current president is not US born.
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melvindale

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 8:31:31 PM
Who is dumb enough to listen to Donald Trump?
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melvindale

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 8:29:11 PM
Calling for all energy sources to be renewable by 2020 is not radical, as Trump's peeps would have you believe. It is the only logical step there is. The entire world should be doing the same.
I agree that solar is far preferable to wind, however that is based on the number of bird kills. Even if they went to bird-friendly Vertical-Axis Wind Turbines, it would not allow Scotland to remain picturesque. However, until solar is much more efficient, Scotland could not depend upon solar - it is too far north and has too few sunny days.
Maybe by 2020 solar will be there, and they could start replacing wind farms with solar rooftops on all buildings. Advances are coming.
The vast majority of the planet CAN and should depend upon solar. Just not big setups, small scale rooftop arrays will be the key to energy independent from carbon.
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mike1881

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Fayetteville
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 6:09:03 AM
Wind energy is not worth it. The cost is not worth the output.
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Alaydown

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 1:37:36 AM
Wind energy RAISES the cost of energy for consumers. It does NOT lower it. The wind turbines are expensive to build and maintain, and they produce very little power in return. That is the biggest reason there are over 14,000 abandoned wind turbines in the USA.
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Doro

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 1:23:00 AM
Wind has become a green alternative source of energy in many places. Although the technology does pose a potential hazard to birds, if that problem could be solved then wind energy might significantly lower the cost of energy for consumers.
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NOTSOGRN

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 12:51:38 AM
. . Martha's Vineyard is next....LOL
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AKmailman

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Alaska
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 11:24:11 PM
Trump has a point but it's not the scenery he's after - wind farms are not cost effective on a massive scale
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 11:22:46 PM
Hmm
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72_Monte

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 11:18:24 PM
Let's just keep everything the way it is, for the scenery.
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 11:09:39 PM
I hate to think that I would agree with The Donald on anything; however, my agreement in this instance is for a different reason. He does not want to see wind turbines from his golf course, a valid concern since industrial turbines are a serious visual pollutant of rural landscapes. I oppose wind ‘power’ in most locations because it is a snare and delusion. Wind turbines produce small amounts of low-grade, unreliable power that must be 100% backed up by conventional generation. They provide a tax windfall for their owners but offer little or no benefit to the users of electricity or the environment.
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Beaveronparade

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:57:19 PM
Donald Trump is just a strange man, enough said.
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:55:50 PM
Wind is not cost effective at supplying massive amounts of power. They slay bats and birds.
Keep trying. Solve the problems or move on to something better.
Build nukes and forget the toys.
Green is red.
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Holly123

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:51:17 PM
Ok ....
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Alaydown

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:49:22 PM
I hate to bring this up now, but this article violates the news submission guideline rule #1: "News should be relevant to our members in the U.S. and Canada."
Aside from that, the Scottish population doesn't want the wind farm either as evidenced by those who have defended Trump. And for good reason since wind farms are expensive and provide little power in return for the investment. Do the research yourself, but there are over 1400 abandoned wind turbines in this country for those reasons.
It will be interesting to see if they ever build the wind farm off of Martha's Vineyard since the DemocRATS who live and vacation there don't want it.
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FlyNFool

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:47:16 PM
Money talks!
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:45:56 PM
OK
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Mr Tex

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:45:08 PM
Trump -->nimby
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pnivens

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:41:31 PM
How have the wind farms built in the USA fared? Not to good! They build them and then either can't afford to maintain them or the environmentalists drive you out of business due to bird kills. Doesn't seem economical in it's current stage of development.
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dirt girl

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:40:51 PM
Alternative energy is all fine and good but to convert all energy use in a short time span is a bit much.
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donnamarieb333

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:34:43 PM
i could care less about another country's efforts to "go green". but if it proves to be such an eyesore that we abandon the same "super-dee-duper" idea here off the coast of golf-haven, myrtle beach, south carolina... well then let's just see how that goes. and yes, the "barney" reference was totally on purpose. these days i think the entire body politic takes it's cues from kiddie tv programming
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orcar

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Boise
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:33:55 PM
It's the second revolution.
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carman11

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:30:51 PM
I AGREE WITH DUSTYHORSE
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:28:23 PM
I don't think wind farms make sense from an economic stand point. They require sophisticated power distribution systems.
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drobbbb

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:25:11 PM
who care about what trump wants or thinks
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pinkelefant

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:22:33 PM
Donald Trump is my uncle
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pickledude72

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California
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:22:24 PM
ok
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:21:49 PM
OK!
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js0743

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:21:47 PM
Trump's afraid those wind mills will mess up his hair.
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Hoporrene

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:21:06 PM
Is Donald Trump really for America...or for the Money.
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themaninthehat

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:20:08 PM
Trump needs to be trumped. Go Scots!
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Shakleelady31

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Fort Wayne
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:19:08 PM
Interesting.
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REVLAW

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:12:42 PM
OH?
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danlanman

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:12:35 PM
ok
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eaglev

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:12:16 PM
T Boone Pickens tried the wind farm and it did not make him money for the power needed. He went back to supporting natural gas. We have it lets use it.
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paulp24

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Harrisburg
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:12:14 PM
Lol freedomsailor...
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tippybuddy

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:12:03 PM
ok
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freedomsailor

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Naples
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:10:41 PM
Trump is just worried about wind blowing his funny hairpiece away.
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suzmar

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:08:57 PM
Wind farms are a waste of money and not a dependable source of energy.
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dancygreen

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:07:05 PM
he probably doesn't spend 1 week a year there- he should stay the hell out of their business if he isn't going to be of help
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TelsaOR

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:04:58 PM
Is Donald right or not?
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w9med

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Gary
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:04:28 PM
Who cares?
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Lukus

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Halifax
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:04:14 PM
OK
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gknee09

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 9:58:24 PM
he has the money to fight it, that is his prerogative
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woodeye55

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Gary
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 9:56:46 PM
Alex Salmond who?
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 9:55:42 PM
All for Wind and Solar, if they work... Question how many wind farms do we have not working???
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 9:55:02 PM
nimby at its best
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colaguy

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 9:54:58 PM
hmmm
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menagerie1013

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 9:52:00 PM
Wind farms are not the answer, they kill too many birds.
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