vulcan96

Champion Author
Ohio
Posts:16,075 Points:1,842,210 Joined:Aug 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 11:13:41 PM
doing all that already !!
|
HankJ

Champion Author
Montgomery
Posts:6,166 Points:1,124,315 Joined:Aug 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 11:04:19 PM
Bike or walk
|
1985tbird

Champion Author
San Jose
Posts:2,680 Points:554,075 Joined:Mar 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 11:02:10 PM
I'm selling my house and leaving the country
|
Cretired

Champion Author
Louisiana
Posts:3,387 Points:1,094,085 Joined:May 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:48:34 PM
Just get the most efficent car you can afford, that'll make the biggest diffrence.
|
goldieolds

Champion Author
Twin Cities
Posts:2,074 Points:402,300 Joined:Sep 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:25:35 PM
I couldn't get the whole article to come up, so don't know if they mentioned it, but another one is turn the engine off when you're not driving. Seems obvious, but I can't tell you how many times I see people in parking lots and in front of buildings with their engines running. Not only does it waste gas and therefor raise the prices for everybody else, but it also fouls the air that we all have to breath. Directly, for those that have to walk through that car's fumes to get where they are going, and indirectly by contributing to the growing air quality and pollution problems. Even cities that never had pollution in the past, like Minneapolis, have smog and air quality alerts now. "cough, cough"
|
BOATNERD5

Champion Author
Wisconsin
Posts:1,366 Points:394,935 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:25:33 PM
hard to calculate
|
colefolk

Champion Author
Indianapolis
Posts:6,306 Points:719,565 Joined:Jun 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:23:23 PM
Vehicles also are lighter in weight than they were in the 70's -- fiberglass [or bathroom tissue] chasses.
Like the Detroit-area responder indicated below, it's not a good idea to ride bikes in single-digit temperatures [increased medical bills].
|
Chasms

Champion Author
Orange County
Posts:19,201 Points:1,525,880 Joined:Aug 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:15:19 PM
mugrb: I hate to burst your bubble but =The chief factors in calculating Fuel Economy is HOW you calculate it & How FULL is a "Full" tank!!=
Example: When I fill my tank, I can pump 1½ - 2 gallons more in after the nozzle shuts off [even That VARIES by station & pump efficiency]. But when my wife fills it up, she stops pumping when the nozzle clicks off, and tells me "Yes, it's FULL!" AND she doesn't write down trip mileage.
If my wife drove your vehicle, you might get 41 mpg as sloppy as she does things. So go figure......
|
defiancegasman

Champion Author
Ohio
Posts:4,843 Points:885,030 Joined:May 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:15:16 PM
The 55 MPH for the top MPG is old data and does NOT agree with the digital readings in Chevy Venture. It gets almost the same at 55 MPH as it does at 65 MPH. both are getting 33.5 MPG. Back in the 70's and 80's cars were geared for more power and driving at 55 MPH did save then. Most of todays cars have 4, 5 or 6 speed transmission with a top gear that gets very good MPG at the higher speed. But there is a big drop off in todays cars in MPG at speeds over 70 MPH still.
[Edited by: defiancegasman at 12/9/2007 11:18:27 PM EST]
|
CostcoKid

All-Star Author
Minnesota
Posts:686 Points:1,193,450 Joined:Mar 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:15:06 PM
maybe if you drove something other than a hugh 4 door SUV and drove a car that got 30 MPG instead we would not be in this mess
|
RLH68

Champion Author
Orlando
Posts:3,665 Points:717,675 Joined:Jun 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:14:07 PM
'chuck sr' makes a lot of sense and I know he's right. I use cruise control whenever possible and have seen the results. I see 'chuck sr' is from Tampa, FL. I'm from Orlando, FL and have found that trying to travel less than the posted speed limit is taking your life in your hands. Most drivers will intentionally pass you then cut back in as close as they can to show their ignorance. Very little courtesy on highways today.
|
DancingDee

Champion Author
Gary
Posts:2,104 Points:553,465 Joined:Jul 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:04:49 PM
Good Advice-I practice the above steps.
|
mugrb

Champion Author
Michigan
Posts:4,248 Points:383,475 Joined:Sep 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 10:00:10 PM
I TOLD YOU SO!!
Now I have the Government for actual proof.
Gee, maybe that's why my 1999 GMC Jimmy SLT 4-door mid size SUV got up to 24.2 mpg highway. But according the auto techs and salesmen - NO WAY! According to them the best the Jimmy could get on the highway with a 4.3 liter V-6 engine is at best - 12 mpg. "Your gong to tell me my mid size Jimmy SUV gets worse mpg that my sister's 1999 full size 4-door Chevy Tahoe with a 350 CID V-8 engine!?" She typically gets 17 mpg on the highway. "Salesmen - what do they know?"
Now I traded my Jimmy for a 2001 Ford Ranger pickup w/3.0 liter V-6. It's been getting up to 28.1 mpg on the highway. Still get a lot of flack about that. "NO WAY a Ranger is going to get anything better than maybe 19 mpg highway!" These auto techs must have some really heavy lead feet then. The worse I got towing about 2,000 lbs was 24.3 mpg.
|
chuck sr

Veteran Author
Tampa
Posts:347 Points:550,200 Joined:Apr 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 9:34:10 PM
The U.S. government has determined, that 55 mph, is the most efficient, for mpg efficiency. The faster we drive, the more wind resistance, we encounter. The more wind resistance we encounter, the more fuel we will use. Have you ever seen a train start up? The engineer spins the drive wheels for a few seconds, waits a few seconds, then repeats the cycle, until the whole train has momentum. Then, he will open the throttle, and bring it up to speed. The same holds true for cars. Once you get it moving, and up to speed, momentum will do a lot for you. This is how cruise control works. You set it, and then watch for drivers, who are erratic. Also, if you drive 55, drivers behind you must drive 55, or else pass you, if they wish to speed. And, if you are like me, if you see a light, 2 blocks ahead, release the cruise control and coast, and if the light goes green, resume cruising. You will be surprised at the increase in mileage.
|
Tigerlady

All-Star Author
Detroit
Posts:567 Points:502,655 Joined:May 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 9:12:05 PM
Pretty much same old tips. Bring on more vehiles that use fuel alternatives.
|
southpaw33

Champion Author
Orlando
Posts:2,014 Points:537,340 Joined:Nov 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 9:04:52 PM
i took the spare tire off the back end of my jeep wrangler x, V6 4.0 liter engine. it has improved my gas mileage... believe it or not, i have gotten up to 404 miles on one tank of gas. 19 gallon tank but i squeeze 20 gallons into the tank without spilling a drop. this averages out to 20 miles to one gallon of gas. this is also driving within the posted speed limits. but i take a chance of not being able to change a flat if this happens, so far i've gotten away with it for almost a year now.... oil change every 3000 miles or 3 months which ever comes first. tune up every 30,000 miles and the air pressure in the tires every other day........
|
Somis1

Champion Author
Ventura
Posts:6,889 Points:1,391,410 Joined:Jul 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:59:19 PM
Drive less!
|
djleighk15

Rookie Author
Arizona
Posts:10 Points:13,205 Joined:Sep 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:46:03 PM
If you keep a steady speed of 45 mph in town, you'll more than likely hit all green lights(unless traffic is horrible, in that case there's nothing you can do). Like in the early mornings or in the evenings just stay at 45 mph and i promise you wont hit a red, once you get the pattern down. Its nice you save gas because you aren't stoping and going all the time and you accelerator stays at a steady rpm. You all know what happens when you have steady rpm...SAVE GAS...LOVE IT!!
|
REVLAW

Champion Author
San Antonio
Posts:3,942 Points:748,740 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:42:13 PM
Remember the good old days ('50s & 60s) when we would modify the engines and transmissions to get more speed and acceleration ... the more horsepower the better? Burning rubber ... peeling out ... etc. was a sign of the times. Well, DON'T DO THAT. (Poor kids of today ... dad will only buy a 4-cylinder.)
Many worthwhile ways to economize and save "gas bucks." Worth paying attention to and putting into practice.
|
Star Cruise

Champion Author
Toronto
Posts:1,026 Points:221,385 Joined:Sep 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:31:26 PM
great suggestions. About time somebody wa doing something constructive instead of alawys having excuses
|
JPgas101

Champion Author
Georgia
Posts:3,744 Points:576,905 Joined:Aug 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:24:36 PM
Carpooling
|
cabdriver

Champion Author
Pennsylvania
Posts:4,341 Points:1,035,100 Joined:May 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:20:27 PM
yeah. I love the hot rodders accelerating to a red light! LOL gotta luv my little town
|
anishnene

All-Star Author
Michigan
Posts:885 Points:207,305 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:15:38 PM
Things that we should all be doing. But what about making alternative fuels.
|
quixdrah

Rookie Author
California
Posts:16 Points:2,520 Joined:Dec 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:15:30 PM
I try to go the speed limit, but then all those others with money to burn want to run me over on the highway (or the streets in town!)
|
RangRiderNV

Rookie Author
Kansas City
Posts:38 Points:49,840 Joined:May 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:12:27 PM
Take the bus if you can.
|
kingpin6

Champion Author
Arkansas
Posts:1,255 Points:489,575 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:08:23 PM
All these are common sense that everybody should already know. We have got to change our driving habits. Drive less and find alternative fuels that are practical and cost-efficient.
|
24541

All-Star Author
Virginia
Posts:803 Points:1,188,765 Joined:Mar 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:02:30 PM
Make your trips count.
|
Harry911

Champion Author
Columbia
Posts:4,318 Points:790,625 Joined:May 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 8:00:25 PM
walk
|
pgerassi

Champion Author
Milwaukee
Posts:4,411 Points:890,785 Joined:Apr 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:58:13 PM
Take it easy. You will be better off in the long run.
|
brus282

Champion Author
North Carolina
Posts:3,849 Points:785,930 Joined:Aug 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:52:12 PM
ss dd
|
Cruiser340

Champion Author
Grand Rapids
Posts:5,657 Points:1,529,110 Joined:May 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:40:00 PM
Just don't use the cruise control on snow and ice covered roads!
|
utley

Veteran Author
Edmonton
Posts:460 Points:784,980 Joined:Aug 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:38:50 PM
Yeah, like someone is going to get us all to slow down. NOT.
|
buckoMD

Champion Author
Maryland
Posts:3,240 Points:711,950 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:38:24 PM
Seen this since the first oil crisis in '72.
|
UP-Skier

Champion Author
Twin Cities
Posts:8,902 Points:2,094,245 Joined:Oct 2002
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:36:21 PM
Nothing new, just the same old stuff.
|
Japsmith

Champion Author
Tacoma
Posts:1,584 Points:221,335 Joined:Sep 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:35:56 PM
The usual tips that people choose or refuse to follow. Many people use the excuse that time is money and choose to speed so that they can get there quicker than if they were going the speed limit. For me I have more time than I do money that I have to spend filling up my vehicle.
|
DerHahn

Champion Author
Illinois
Posts:6,214 Points:861,995 Joined:May 2004
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:24:54 PM
how about some new info that might be useful.
|
benj

Rookie Author
New York
Posts:4 Points:64,345 Joined:May 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:19:33 PM
same old tips. i think most of us already knew them. furthermore, i find it unbelievable that i can save anything noticeable by following them unless i am driving 90mph, carrying an elephant in my trunk, and have 3 soft tires.
|
milespergallon

Champion Author
Illinois
Posts:3,729 Points:825,795 Joined:Feb 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:14:11 PM
The link isn't there but what was in the heading sounds like reasonably ideas. Anything to conserve while we push, holler and screem for the non-oil alternative.
|
Memaw2mud

Sophomore Author
Oklahoma City
Posts:134 Points:95,235 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 7:06:33 PM
The tips are all well and good but that is not helping the price of gas now is it?
|
sdm6061

Champion Author
Orange County
Posts:11,352 Points:1,222,280 Joined:Jul 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:57:02 PM
could someone either post the correct link or the full article? the Miami Herald website never heard of it. thank you
|
DeerFever

Rookie Author
Akron
Posts:49 Points:745,805 Joined:Nov 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:41:54 PM
Push for the fuel cell and have them stick the oil...
|
gassygrandpa

Champion Author
Detroit
Posts:4,295 Points:1,051,955 Joined:Oct 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:41:10 PM
Yea, ride a bike. Oh, I changed my air filter and gas mileage went down. Go figure.
|
ED6

Champion Author
Riverside
Posts:3,732 Points:729,110 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:36:53 PM
Drive a fuel efficient car.
|
unloquacious

Champion Author
Indiana
Posts:1,546 Points:664,885 Joined:May 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:31:24 PM
Get up and leave 5 minutes earlier. Basic stuff we all know, but need to be reminded of anyway;)
|
pulpwood

Champion Author
Mississippi
Posts:2,773 Points:922,005 Joined:Sep 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:26:27 PM
Conservation always helps!
|
IamWhoIam

Champion Author
San Francisco
Posts:7,460 Points:917,350 Joined:Jan 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:22:14 PM
Why say that? It is avery short-sighted view, unless you drive a motor scooter which by law almost everywhere is limited to 30mph.
|
trainjunkie47

Champion Author
Detroit
Posts:8,970 Points:1,303,740 Joined:Aug 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:19:31 PM
"I can't drive, fifty five"
|
FunkyPMonkey

Champion Author
Detroit
Posts:2,674 Points:641,170 Joined:Jun 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:04:51 PM
ok
|
Jeannemarie

Champion Author
Las Vegas
Posts:19,800 Points:1,357,375 Joined:Aug 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 6:01:02 PM
Interestingly enough I recall the 55 mph everyone had to endure back a number of years (some of you weren't born then for sure) and at first we screamed and hollered. But, the part we found strange was that we got to our destination within about 5 minutes of the time rushing got us there, much more rested, and used less fuel. That would be good training for a lot of these guys who think they have to get in front of someone else or the roads will be rolled up in front of them so they cannot get through. I am after my husband every week to check my tires forme and it turns out they are generally down a bit so it is a good thing to do. I don't carry anything extra in my car except some canvas tote bags (lightweight) that I use at the grocery stores as I am also in favor to not using extra oil there. Yes, those plastic bags are made from oil. I use cruise control on the highway, I do not brake suddenly but keep my eyes on the cars and the lights ahead so I know when I have to slow down early enough to avoid slamming on those brakes. Often the lights will change to green as I get to them so I do not have to stop at all. I get 48-50 mpg in town and get 78 - 80 mpg on the highway with this. I do drive a Prius Hybrid but I use it carefully so I can do better. The gasoline I don't use is for others. My husband only drives his car one day a month on the average. We both plan our trips to make sure we don't double back or waste our mileage. It just takes a little planning.
|
metalman79108

All-Star Author
Texas
Posts:550 Points:157,755 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 5:47:56 PM
Double nickel works
|
gasie1

Champion Author
Maine
Posts:3,910 Points:1,288,895 Joined:Nov 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 5:41:29 PM
All great things to know.
|
masonco

Champion Author
Michigan
Posts:6,532 Points:774,020 Joined:May 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2007 5:17:05 PM
I can not get the link to work.
senileoldman: It is a known fact that city stop and go driving uses a lot more gas that driving steady speeds regardless of what speed you are driving. That is why they give you one MPG for city driving and higher mileage for "highway driving" usually recorded at a steady 55 MPH.
Most have posted ways to improve mileage. I seen other sites that give mileage tips too, but the biggest things are to slow down, avoid jack rabbit starts and just drive less.
|