wifewantedagt

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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 9:18:59 AM
I personally don't care for replay. I get just as upset as anybody when a blown call goes against my team, but thats baseball.
"90 feet between the bases is as close to perfect as anything man has created"
[Edited by: wifewantedagt at 3/10/2013 10:19:14 AM EST]
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burt12013

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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 6:48:13 AM
yes
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Bad_Petroleum

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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 4:53:54 PM
Leave the rules alone !!!
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Canadiens

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 11:37:14 PM
I see both sides but I would have to go with "Get it Right." People who say the games are too long are not true Baseball fans. Like art, it takes time to complete a masterpiece and getting important calls wrong will ruin the masterpiece and lengthen the game (arguing and ejections).
Each team should get 2 challenges a game. If you win the challenge then the play is reversed, if you lose the challenge you lose another out and if there if the play was already a 3rd out then you start the next inning with one.
I'm open for suggestions about challenges but lets get it right please.
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runningmp

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 6:06:11 PM
SNOW, when you quote a website that is opinion based you should question the statistics. An organization which is non-biased would be more credible.
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Rich_pa

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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:57:24 PM
It should be used to verify homeruns either down the line or if it hits above lines at some parks. Also, it needs to be used to make sure a fly ball was not traped.
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SNOWMI

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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 9:40:31 PM
Lets just say this. Baseball is already using some instant replay. For close plays on homerun balls, whether they were over the wall or stayed in field or fair or foul. They are currently working on agreements for expanding instant replay such as, trapped balls in outfield and balls along the fair/foul lines. I know this question is old, but baseball has already started instant replay and will be expanded. we just have to be patient. I enjoy the game as it is. I know my favorite team just missed a perfect game, but all the fans were positive about it and accepted it. We have great fans.
Here's what Comissioner Bud Selig said about this: "The dignity and class of the entire Detroit Tigers organization under such circumstances were truly admirable and embodied good sportsmanship of the highest order. Armando and Detroit manager Jim Leyland are to be commended for their handling of a very difficult situation. I also applaud the courage of umpire Jim Joyce to address this unfortunate situation honestly and directly. Jim's candor illustrates why he has earned the respect of on-field personnel throughout his accomplished career in the Major Leagues since 1989."
"As Jim Joyce said in his postgame comments, there is no dispute that last night's game should have ended differently. While the human element has always been an integral part of baseball, it is vital that mistakes on the field be addressed. Given last night's call and other recent events, I will examine our umpiring system, the expanded use of instant replay and all other related features. Before I announce any decisions, I will consult with all appropriate parties, including our two unions and the Special Committee for On-Field Matters, which consists of field managers, general managers, club owners and presidents."
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runningmp

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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 11:00:46 PM
SNOW, so you link an article that is over a year old? Bleacher Report is an opinion based site. Get me a site that is non-biased than we will talk.
Remember the blown call by Jim Joyce in 2010 that cost Armando Galarraga a perfect game. Donald would have been the final out of the game. Joyce thought Jason Donald was safe...he saw the replay and admitted he blew the call. Galarraga would have become part of an elite group. There has only been 23 perfect games in the history of baseball.
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SNOWMI

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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 9:22:39 PM
sorry cmmattia, this was for <runningmp>> look up http://bleacherreport.com/articles/911552-defining-the-human-element-mlb-umpires-call-995-of-plays-correctly
this says 99.5%. It's higher than you think. i'm sure minor league is probably is less, but only great umpires who rarely were wrong moved into majors.
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SNOWMI

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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 8:59:21 PM
>>cmmattia. look up http://bleacherreport.com/articles/911552-defining-the-human-element-mlb-umpires-call-995-of-plays-correctly
this says 99.5%. It's higher than you think. i'm sure minor league is probably is less, but only great umpires who rarely were wrong moved into majors.
[Edited by: SNOWMI at 11/24/2012 10:00:25 PM EST]
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cmmattia

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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 1:40:04 PM
yes .... its all about getting the call correct :)P
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runningmp

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 9:22:27 PM
>>SNOWMI, No, umpires are 99% correct and do a great job for how tough it is...<<
If you statement is correct how do you explain the attrition rate for umpires in Minor League Baseball?
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SNOWMI

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 9:01:08 PM
No, umpires are 99% correct and do a great job for how tough it is. But i think football has more incorrect calls than baseball. football is a weird sport so i don't watch it. Baseball is more interesting and calls make sense. Football has gray areas about plays on whether a player was down or not to end play.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 2:58:40 PM
I don't think it will lengthen the games, but shorten them. I will do away with the huddles and arguing and lessen the ejections.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 10:16:23 AM
get it right!!!
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 12:45:03 AM
Cards got screwed tonight. After a great catch by Jay he threw the ball to first to double up the runner an the ump called him safe, but the replays clearly showed him out. The bad call tacked two runs on the score We really need instant replay. Get It Right!!!!!
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 4:41:10 AM
I hate the Yankees , but they got screwed at second base and it led to a big inning instant replay showed that the runner was definitely out, but called safe. It completely changed the game.
GET IT RIGHT!!!
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maddog57

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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2012 8:42:57 AM
No....
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redsox20042007

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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2012 8:15:21 AM
No replay
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LeftLane1

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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2012 2:31:58 AM
Each Team gets a RED FLAG like in the NFL, you get 1 Challenge per game maximum, but maybe limit the total available per year so you use them when NEEDED ONLY.
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Roteque

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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2012 4:39:41 PM
NOPE
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stantiger

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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 8:02:58 PM
yes can help on missed calls.
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PatAZ

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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:00:21 AM
Yes it should be expanded a bit.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 9:02:37 AM
Article in paper today, says they are thinking about adding foul line balls, and trapped balls on instant replay. About damn time.
When they see how good that will be, they will probably add more.
[Edited by: rkt wgn at 7/11/2012 10:04:26 AM EST]
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budman1035

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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 2:18:16 PM
Just get the call CORRECT!
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runningmp

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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:54:24 AM
Maybe the attitude will change when Selig leaves or passes away, but I think you would also need the managers to go along with it.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 10:05:27 AM
rkt wgn A very compelling argue and in principle I agree with you.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 9:40:55 AM
As if they don't make enough money in MLB. LOL LOL
At least 2 calls were missed in yesterdays Cardinals game.
Holiday threw out a runner stretching a double into a triple, but was erroneously called safe, leading to Colorado's first and only run. Also Holiday was called out at second, but replays showed him safe. I am sure there were others. Umpiring is really poor, for both sides. Lots of people say it all evens up, but, I say bull crap!!! Make it the right call. I don't care if it is against my team, just make it right!!!
The technology is there, so why don't they use it? It is quick enough to use it even on balls and strikes.
there are bad calls in every game being played. Some are game changing, so I really believe replays should be part of the game....
Another thing that pisses me off, is the phantom tag of second base in a double play. The Rockies player was at least 2 ft from the bag when he caught the ball and the runner was called out.
Umpires have too much influence of who wins the game. Either side can win with the right UMP.
[Edited by: rkt wgn at 7/5/2012 10:46:19 AM EST]
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 5:28:19 PM
MLB said that it is too expensive to have an ump just sitting in a replay booth. They blew one today against the YANKEES. A runner missed home plate and was called safe. Oh well so much for that.
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runningmp

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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:57:52 PM
rkt, an easier way would be for the instant replay to be done is separate from the field. An umpire not on the field could make the call.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:35:46 AM
Most definitely, because the umps are ful of themselves.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:35:41 AM
Most definitely, because the umps are ful of themselves.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:28:05 PM
Yes, but limit it's use. Close plays at the bases and determing fair or foul balls.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:28:01 PM
Yes, but limit it's use. Close plays at the bases and determing fair or foul balls.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:27:55 PM
Yes, but limit it's use. Close plays at the bases and determing fair or foul balls.
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Burner123

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:27:52 PM
Yes, but limit it's use. Close plays at the bases and determing fair or foul balls.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 10:20:53 AM
blown calls almost every day!!
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 7:28:44 PM
Another blown call by the umps. Freese. Hits foot with batted ball ump called it. Fair ball Replay shows it hitting freezes foot
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 9:54:09 AM
I don't know how he missed the call, he was only about 10 feet away.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2012 8:57:55 PM
Another tainted no hitter. 3rd base ump blew another call. Santana pitches a good game. Should have been a one hitter Another reason for instant replay.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: May 23, 2012 10:45:24 AM
Capn, I have to agree that being an umpire is a thankless job, kind of like being a union steward, a job I had several times in my employment. You were damned if you did, and damned if you didn't. BUT... As a union steward I had the responsibility of fighting for an individual, even when you knew he was wrong in what he did, much like being a lawyer. There was no instant replay to prove right or wrong.
Using instant replay is a form of doing the right thing, and getting it right... If there isn't a definite decision to be made from replay, leave the original call stand.
In a recent Cardinal game , Descalso was called safe at home in a bang,bang play. This time the umpire got it right, as he slid under the tag. I can't possibly see how the umpire could see it happen in true speed, but he called it right. Of course there was an argument about it, and if there was replay, several minutes of arguing would have been avoided.
The form of replay in which the umpiring crew goes into a room to see the replays is kind of stupid. all they need is another umpire studying the replays and send the ruling to the field umpiring crew chief and let him call the play. It doesn't take as much time to look at replays as arguing the call every time.
You say the umpires are graded, then there needs to be a better grading system, cause someone isn't doing his job very good... Probably Bud Selig, HUH? LOL
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runningmp

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Message Posted: May 23, 2012 10:16:18 AM
captain, you lose the spirit or purity of the game argument with the steroid era.
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captain013

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Message Posted: May 23, 2012 8:52:04 AM
No replay. Umpires are graded. If you want a mechanical game fine. I was an umpire for 18 years. You do a disservice to how thankless and disrespected the job really was and still is. Replay is about being right over the spirit of the game. It is too much about "my team" and not enough about the game itself. Too much money involved today. I started because of blown calls in '85 & '87 that cost St Louis two world series championships. I said to myself I can do it better. I started at age 13 volunteering when no parent had the courage to step forward for their own kids or for the sport.
After you have done the job for a while then condemn us over how bad you think umpires and referees are.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: May 22, 2012 1:14:05 PM
Third baseman missed Molina by at least a foot, and Yadi was called out
Major league umps really suck. There should be a grading system, and lower rated umps should get the axe.
Time for instant replay.
[Edited by: rkt wgn at 5/22/2012 2:15:05 PM EST]
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2012 10:02:14 AM
Another bad call last night. The fielder trapped a ball, and batter was called safe.... I think it was the KC game.
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2012 10:31:49 AM
Baseball should copy the hockey setup... There are people who say it would make the game longer. I say bull. Last night there was two bad calls in the Cardinal Cubs game, that were argued about for at least ten minutes each, and an instant replay would have shown it within one minute. Time saved, 9 minutes each...need I say more. Also they would have gotten the call right....
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2012 10:10:19 AM
also another runner was called safe at second ,when everyone in the world could see he was definitely out.
Cubs win 2 because of bad umpiring. Replays are needed bad.....
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rkt wgn

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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2012 7:33:15 PM
Another case of lousy umpiring. The cubs just received a free run as the home plate umpire blew a call on a runner scoring from third base he did not even touch home plate and was called safe. Instant replay showed it immediately MLB should use replay as NHL does. They get it right
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runningmp

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2012 2:22:42 PM
hep, as an avid baseball fan I'm for the instant replay. Quite a few people will argue it goes against the purity of the game. You lose that argument with the steroids era. I'm one of those people if it's proven you used steroids you shouldn't be allowed in the HOF.
[Edited by: runningmp at 4/2/2012 3:24:21 PM EST]
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BT1288

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2012 1:39:10 PM
If they use replay, they should put a 15 second shot (pitch) clock on the pitcher from when he gets the ball.
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