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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Apr 10, 2012 10:17:07 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse Rollover accidents are not frequent so you may be wondering why the federal government is worrying about your car's roof... It's because rollover accidents, while only accounting for 3 percent of serious crashes,are actually involved in 33 percent of all vehicle-occupant deaths. In the U.S. about 10,000 people die each year in rollover accidents and 24,000 are severely injured. We can certainly reduce those numbers and obviously a key factor in how well a vehicle can protect you in a rollover is the strength of its roof. Under prior standards, the National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) conducted roof-crush tests by pressing down on a plate against the edge of a vehicle's roof. The roof has to... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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Rollover accidents are not frequent so you may be wondering why the federal government is worrying about your car's roof...
It's because rollover accidents, while only accounting for 3 percent of serious crashes,are actually involved in 33 percent of all vehicle-occupant deaths.

In the U.S. about 10,000 people die each year in rollover accidents and 24,000 are severely injured. We can certainly reduce those numbers and obviously a key factor in how well a vehicle can protect you in a rollover is the strength of its roof.

Under prior standards, the National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) conducted roof-crush tests by pressing down on a plate against the edge of a vehicle's roof. The roof has to...

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greenfog Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,498 Points:1,640,180 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 12:24:21 PM Ignore greenfog Report Abuse don't cut safety for fuel economy, that is asking for trouble down the road.
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GBFWB72 Sophomore Author Florida Posts:114 Points:667,130 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 10:56:43 AM Ignore GBFWB72 Report Abuse Have you noticed the bad side effect of these new roof crush standards already? The A-pillar on cars is now huge and takes up a great deal of your forward sightlines. To me that is more of a safety issue not being able to see out to avoid accidents than the very small chance of beign in a roll-over accident. Hopefully more manufacturers start going with less higher strength steel in those areas to get the A-pillars down in size liek they used to be so you can actually see out of cars anymore. Sure a tank is safe to drive, but do you really want to drive looking out of a little metal gun slit?
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DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,317 Points:1,522,395 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 10:32:45 AM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse Look forward to more of this kind of change if Republican's are in charge after November...
ciimike Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,638 Points:1,062,060 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 10:25:18 AM Ignore ciimike Report Abuse Should I be more worried having glass sun roofs on my vehicles?
mikerroy Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,571 Points:721,895 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:53:04 AM Ignore mikerroy Report Abuse This is probably due to Americans having such hard heads.
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:14,815 Points:2,598,445 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:47:41 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse Interesting
bell05 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,260 Points:1,877,585 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:47:26 AM Ignore bell05 Report Abuse Yesterday's article.
mberg Champion Author Houston Posts:3,812 Points:961,355 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:42:05 AM Ignore mberg Report Abuse The good news is that car safety has improved remarkably over the last few decades. Let it continue!
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nozzle46 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:6,695 Points:1,473,050 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:39:34 AM Ignore nozzle46 Report Abuse not to worry. If we elect a new repub president all safety regulations will be dismantled.
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dlzastera Champion Author Minnesota Posts:4,515 Points:1,024,320 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:35:30 AM Ignore dlzastera Report Abuse How about inintentive driving?
LQQKGAS Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,670 Points:1,196,910 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:33:41 AM Ignore LQQKGAS Report Abuse Fiberglass and aluminum foil is not very strong.
Red7002011 Champion Author Mississippi Posts:3,337 Points:669,695 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:33:06 AM Ignore Red7002011 Report Abuse Really!
BEGTWO Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,947 Points:725,115 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:32:01 AM Ignore BEGTWO Report Abuse I wonder how the new cars with the glass roofs play in this?
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PhilnTX All-Star Author Dallas Posts:656 Points:436,830 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:31:03 AM Ignore PhilnTX Report Abuse Drove up on a rollover 4 months ago. Chevy Tahoe was upside down in a ditch and the driver was crawling out of the window. Wasn't wearing a seat belt. The roof of the SUV was touching the steering wheel. Driver was bleed from multiple cuts and scalp wounds. From the accident site, it appeared that he ran off into the soft curb, lost control, rolled it 2 or 3 times until it stopped on its roof. I thought the Tahoe held up pretty good. The rear glass was still intact, but the windshield and the glass in both sides of both sets of doors was shattered.
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sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,561 Points:1,919,985 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:30:02 AM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse Rollover safety first!
slgas Champion Author Houston Posts:6,035 Points:1,563,515 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:29:43 AM Ignore slgas Report Abuse Safety first. And if the new rules increase car prices a few hundred dollars, fine. I'm not ready to die.
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:9,023 Points:2,363,550 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:28:56 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Should have left well enough alone.
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Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,404 Points:1,356,845 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:23:28 AM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse Sometimes it's better to leave good enough alone. Maybe they should have just left the standards as they were.
byoftDad Champion Author Columbus Posts:4,452 Points:1,233,375 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:23:24 AM Ignore byoftDad Report Abuse Roll your car over and die.
1fuelish1 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:14,814 Points:1,854,445 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:20:57 AM Ignore 1fuelish1 Report Abuse More people are likely to die because they are not wearing seat belts than because the car rolled over and crushed them.
bart_reed Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,979 Points:786,605 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:20:49 AM Ignore bart_reed Report Abuse Put roll bars in the vehicle frame. Safety first.
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1stClicker Champion Author Texas Posts:5,321 Points:2,244,520 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:19:02 AM Ignore 1stClicker Report Abuse I think the 3% rollover accidents is a low figure. We have a lot of rollover accidents in my area.
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Dr Gas Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,270 Points:358,505 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:16:20 AM Ignore Dr Gas Report Abuse How many times to you hear about a ONE car rollover! And this can happen on a cloudy no ice day, so weather isn't a factor - yep it's a drivers problem!
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VernonOR Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,920 Points:738,845 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:12:39 AM Ignore VernonOR Report Abuse It's all about the dollar when it comes to safety. With Americans dwindling incomes manufacturing are more concerned about the cost of the vehicle.
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