reb4
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 8:37:46 AM
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Ckjoe
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:52:34 AM
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Edpap
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 1:11:36 PM
Only garbage or other waste should be considered for ethanol. Human or animal food sources should not be an option.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2012 8:21:48 AM
Firemanstan, let's see some proof. This graph shows the clear correlation between the price of crude oil and the UN Food and Agriculture Organization’s Food Price Index
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Firemanstan
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2012 7:40:53 AM
yes i agree no eth it is causing food prices to go thru roof
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chemist74
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2012 7:04:21 AM
How much sugar cane or sugar beets do you grow around Chicago?
The ethanol produced must be economically competitive. Of all of the food crops that are grown in large amounts in the United States and can be used to make ethanol, corn is probably one of the most economical. If cellulosic ethanol every gets economical, the ethanol industry would probably make the switch.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 1:32:35 PM
Silver, I read somewhere once that the watermelon growers were dumping tons of melons every season because they just could not be sold. They were looking at ethanol as a usage of this waste. I remember reading it would be very inexpensive due to the fact that these would just be dumped anyway...sounded kinda cool at that time :)
[Edited by: Hannie59 at 6/23/2012 2:34:29 PM EST]
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 1:01:47 PM
The future of ethanol is by using the most cost effective source. Sugar beets are an option, waste fruit would be an option if created in large enough quantities. Using fresh fruit is not cost competitive with selling the fruit to eat. An advantage of using corn is that many other by-products can be produced and sold, like distillers grains.
ZORKO2002, try using the shift key instead of shouting everything.
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 12:38:02 PM
How about no ethanol at all, period!
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 8:23:28 AM
Lots of conventional sources can be used. Beets, billions of tons of bruised produce that never gets to market, cheese whey, by product of the beer processes, many more. And that is without cellulosic sources.
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AroosCountyBoy
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 8:15:53 AM
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