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CORNHICK

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2012 8:36:11 AM

What I want to know is it ethanol or gasoline that will destroy the gaskets in my cars engine?
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CaptDave2012
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2012 10:52:42 AM

It is a blended gasoline and NO, it wll not harm the gaskets in the NEWER cars, trucks.
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rhail2
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 7:07:14 AM

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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2012 7:02:45 AM

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2012 10:55:46 AM

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2012 10:29:41 AM

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2012 10:51:52 AM

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CORNHICK
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 5:37:20 PM

thank you everyone for your advise
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maryph1958
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 10:46:28 AM

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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 10:16:09 AM

"E-85 is not compatible with the rubber hoses in 90's cars. It will dissolve them."

Please share the source of this information.
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PhilnTX
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 10:12:43 AM

E-85 is not compatible with the rubber hoses in 90's cars. It will dissolve them.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 10:03:44 AM

Your question is so open ended that it depends on the position of the moon and whether the light jerseys or dark jerseys won the latest local high school football game.

Neither gasoline nor ethanol will harm engine components which were designed for their use at the intended concentrations.

Many older engines have trouble with ethanol, with both gaskets and metal components.

2-stroke engines have an especially bad time with ethanol as the mixing of oil complicates the situation.

Ethanol suspends much more water in gasoline than gasoline could carry by itself. Most water falls right out of pure gasoline and is easily dealt with by draining the bottom of the tank. Water turns E10 cloudy and enough water will cause ethanol to fall out of the gasoline resulting in phase separation. Yet the gasoline is still cloudy because it still has a lot of water and ethanol and is nasty burning.
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bonbNJ
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 3:57:10 AM

ethanol is not good for engine
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maryph1958
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:08:54 AM

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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:03:28 AM

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maryph1958
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:40:37 AM

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rhail2
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 12:07:19 PM

ethanol
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pointerpuppy
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:37:17 AM

Could be either.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 2:17:52 AM

ethanol damages gaskets so I've heard???????

waynester, just what gaskets are you referring too? I can assure you that there are other components in gasoline that provides far more harm to gaskets than ethanol does. In fact most elastomers have an excellent rating with ethanol.
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waynester1955
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 10:12:50 PM

ethanol damages gaskets so I've heard
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rhail2
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 10:54:59 AM

ethanol
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maryph1958
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2012 10:53:26 AM

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rhail2
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2012 6:53:41 PM

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diesdown
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2012 10:59:21 AM

As the ratio of ethanol to gasoline increases, so does the likelihood of gasket problems.
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rhail2
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2012 8:52:30 AM

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Maintroll
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2012 5:42:48 AM

Depending on how much ethanol is in the gas it is ethanol not gasoline.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2012 11:28:27 PM

They cannot not provide proof of their statements as they are clueless. When you actually look at Chemical compatibility charts you begin to see what is really compatible.

Just check on this chart and highlite alcohol ethyl, and then pick rubber, plastic or neoprene. You will be surprised at the result. Now try good ole gasoline. Surprised? Are you starting to get the picture?

I could list Dupont's chart which I have done many times before, but the results are the same. Ethanol comes out the winner.

[Edited by: goldseeker at 1/29/2012 12:31:39 AM EST]
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Daurel
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2012 6:10:26 PM

rhail2 and maryph1958
Please provide proof of your statements.
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rhail2
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2012 2:45:04 PM

ethanol
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maryph1958
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2012 11:16:18 AM

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Daurel
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2012 7:38:57 AM

I am trying to figure out which gaskets you are talking about.
If you are talking about a oil leak that has NOTHING to do with gas or ethanol.
Most all cars built in the USA have had Ethanol tolerant sealing systems since the mid 90's.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2012 12:54:13 AM

Neither, however, it is gasoline that leaves the varnish and crap in the fuel system that you find in your fuel filter after ethanol cleans it up.

I have been using E10 in various vehicles since 1981, the last time I had to change a leaking gasket in an engine was in 1974.
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2012 2:06:12 PM

ethanol --
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rhail2
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2012 9:37:43 AM

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