btalboth
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2008 8:55:14 PM
You will never get "even" with us, we will always take your money and sell the gas for whatever we want to.
Of course, we will hate you if you took the bus to work, carpooled, or rode a bike. We will hate you if you parked that big SUV and drove an electric car. We also would hate you if you took the time to make sure your tires were properly inflated, drove smoothly with plenty of space between cars and kept your car properly tuned up. And lastly, we would hate if you paid with cash because we wouldn't be able to charge you 27% interest on your 5 gas company credit cards.
But don't think of all the money you might save...... think of your neighbor, the police man who might loose his job if there were fewer traffic problems and accidents. Think of your insurance company that will also lose money and might have to lay off workers and lower your premiums when you don't drive or get into accidents or need a tow. Think of the body shop workers who might loose their jobs from lack of work.
At least the one thing We here at the oil companies can count on...... you are spoiled, stupid, lazy and fat Americans would never do this because you are entitled to do what you want in America. God Bless America! Drill, Baby, Drill!
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Silverdog1
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2008 3:56:25 PM
You want to get EVEN? Hmmmm...the FBI is on their way to your house buddy. :)
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Sky19
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2008 3:33:30 PM
Not buying their products is the best and most effective legal weapon. There is nothing they fear more than conservation!
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Cadillac05CTS
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2008 1:56:21 PM
YOU CAN TAKE THERE CREDIT CARD OFFERS AND PUTT LOTS OF REALLY HEAVY AND THIN PIECES OF ANYTHING AS LONG AS THEY FIT IN THERE NO-POSTAGE needed ENVELOPE AND MAIL IT OFF TO THEM.
They pay for the envelope when they get it returned. the more wait the envelope the more money they pay.
it wont break the bank but it will bother them.
I do it to all my credit card offers and I leave my invitation in it to so they know who sent it.
I've put things like metal washers, sand, bb's, garbage paper, even crumbled chips. he he. lol
its very imiture but at the same time its your swipe back at the establishment.
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ted1963
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2008 10:45:59 AM
i pee on rest room floor. lol
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cibipie
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2008 2:54:26 PM
You must remember that in any economy, everything is connected. Not everyone profits on the backs of the little guys. And oil companies have employees, too, who aren't necessarily rich bigwigs, sitting around in posh office suites, puffing fat cigars, and harrumphing themselves over their profits and greedy ways. Some may actually donate to charity once in a while! :P
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2008 10:35:43 AM
Thats a silly idea.
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eniac1010
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2008 4:55:20 PM
Slow down
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cutolo
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2008 10:27:46 PM
Very simple: Don't buy their products.
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pmooney
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2008 7:35:03 PM
Sorry guy you have to live with it, or park your car...
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frankito
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2008 7:03:51 PM
I agree with previous persons that the best we can do is continue to conserve the best we can. Demand is really low now which is causing oil prices to drop drastically. OPEC oil nations are hurting now because they aren't making as much money as before. They cut production to try to make the price come back up but because of that they make less because they sell less.
If demand continues to fall prices will continue to drop (maybe even down to $1/gallon!!!) It's below $2/gallon here in MN but I am still conserving like it's about $4/gallon. In return I save even more money.
The point is continue to CONSERVE CONSERVE CONSERVE despite low prices!!!
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Ernman
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2008 8:23:00 AM
I am punishing the "oils", by still conserving, I find a more relaxed lifestyle at home, reading, surfing, gardening, walking, riding my bicycle, going to the library, watering our gardens. A more simple lifestyle, including watching quality TV, and movies. The "oils" will never take advantage of me again, I can stay home, and get my entertainment, and not have to drive my car at $4.00 per gallon!!!
Enough rant!!!!!
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2008 7:04:12 AM
Just ask the all knowing B.Obama what to do.
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airduct
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2008 6:21:33 PM
>>An example might be to sell all oil stock (If I had any), send their credit cards invitations back torn up or completed with explicatives, add choice stickers to the pumps giving my message to customers.<<
If you had any oil stock you would be very happy with the royalties.
The credit card offers are handled by clearing houses and banks so the oil companies would not care one way or the other. Besides there are some good bargains to be had with a card that pays you cash back for using and buying gas...
Stickers - Why deface the procerity of the local merchants. The oil companies don't own the stations.
If you really want to hurt them walk. Don't buy any products that are shipped in via any means of transportation. Go to bed at sun down, no TV, Cell Phones or computers .....Wood or coal only for heating. Candles. Grow your own food and meat. Use flax, cotton and wool to make your clothing. Go back to living the way things were two hundred years or so ago. That'll get um!
[Edited by: airduct at 11/11/2008 7:22:19 PM EST]
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2008 10:18:17 AM
explore alternative energy resources
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oldbear49
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2008 7:39:50 AM
But a bicycle.
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outlaw329
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2008 1:44:54 AM
Conserving is the best way to get back and we still need to do it every chance we get. The taxes the states put on gas are probably more then the gas companies make anyway.
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UP-Skier
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2008 5:37:05 PM
Buy stock, join the group.
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screwedbybigoil
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2008 8:50:39 PM
...drive less...
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rms1635
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2008 11:20:48 AM
Why not get even with the government? After all, the oil companies make a small amount per gallon of gas compared to the federal, state, and local taxes we're forced to pay. I agree, make the stations/companies compete. Free market competition will benefit us in the long run.
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fltdoc
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2008 9:33:06 AM
Pick up some of the credit card applications at your least favorite gas station and write messages detailing you complaints with them. Drop them in the mail. They are all business reply type mailers and they have to pay the postage upon receiving them.
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bys490
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2008 8:04:59 AM
cut your driving a little
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andydallas
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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2008 4:26:51 PM
if poss got to work on a moped or buy othermeans eg car share or push bike if we dont go to the gas staion they will pay for once
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narcar1973
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2008 4:56:29 PM
Buy hybreds
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2008 9:32:38 PM
zonko wrote:
>None of these ideas posted by NatureBoyKY will work.
I'd say "BUY MORE oil stock." Then vote YES on all the stockholder resolutions. If it's close, go to the annual meeting and ask the CEO why gas is too expensive. (Once they get two or three similar questions, my experience is they'll ask if somebody has some other comments.)
>Also on the credit card application, the banks send them, not
>the oil companies.
The Big Five (Shell, BP [also ARCO], Exxon [also Mobil], Chevron [also Texaco], Conoco [also Phillips 66, also 76]) are all processed by major banks.
If you want to get the bank and the oil company at the same time, buy one tank of gas and nothing else every month. Then, pay the bill electronically right on the due date. You'd be the worst possible customer for the bank.
[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 9/2/2008 10:35:59 PM EST]
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BumpNRun
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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2008 8:27:34 PM
Good luck, buddy.
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gsbcmo
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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2008 9:47:34 AM
Best way to get even? Buy their stock and take some of the profits for yourself!
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Sealer
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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2008 8:35:42 AM
How about using gasbuddy to buy gas wherever it's cheapest along your normal route and forcing the stations to compete?
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theRealAirness
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 2:41:35 AM
Great. Make them buy the shares when the shares are falling. Ya. Payback time.
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petej0
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2008 12:26:31 PM
NatureBoyKY,
Are you even old enough to drive? Why dont you act your age and not your shoe size.
How about stop buying gas? Have you tried that?
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ibd14u518
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2008 12:12:19 PM
SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT ONE PERSON CANT MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT IF WE ALL CUT BACK A LITTLE WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LIKE I DONT CUT GRASS AS OFTEN, WHEN IT STARTS TO LOOK BAD I CUT IT. I ONLY WATER MY FLOWERS NOT MY GRASS SO IT DOESNT GROW AS FAST.
PLUS WHEN IM NOT IN A HURRY I DONT HURRY TO GET TO PLACES, I TAKE MY TIME DONT SPEED, AND TRY TO GET AS MUCH DONE IN ONE TRIP AS I CAN.
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Starr1sg
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2008 8:19:46 AM
Oil companys want you to sell your stock, because they want to buy it back. most of their profits have gone back into stock buy back.
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jsoko
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2008 6:31:08 AM
"An example might be to sell all oil stock "
Sorry to tell you but, to sell stock; someone must buy it. Its not like you give it back, someone always owns it.
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theRealAirness
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 11:46:59 PM
Thanks E-Squirrel. Somebody has to lead the pack. I gained the respect of all my millinaire friends. And, I have helped them. When I gave the go signal, millions move. I hope to get a few more millionaires in my side.
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E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 4:38:21 PM
theRealAirness replies:
"It only takes one person to make the difference."
Thank God that the free world has you to be that one person.
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DocWyeth
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 9:33:17 AM
green technology is just going to make Pelosi, Gore and TBone richer. It is a farce. Follow the money trail. They are all so heavily invested in green it is ridiculous. If we really were running out of oil the oil companies would be throwing billions at alternative sources looking for a way to stay in business. This is all a guilt trip on the American public.
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DocWyeth
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 9:30:24 AM
walk
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CaptSquid
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 1:12:01 AM
Childish idea.
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theRealAirness
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2008 12:30:41 AM
It is not hostility issue. It is being fair. Oil per barrel already came down, but they are still price gouging British Columbia. Somebody has to police. If it is done globally, it is going to work. It only takes one person to make the difference.
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E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2008 4:13:05 PM
Why do you feel the need to "get even", as if the oil companies have done something wrong to you.
I think what you need is therapy to work on your hostility issues.
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theRealAirness
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2008 12:16:45 AM
You can invest in companies who develops green, alternative, and renewable fuel. There are so many. That way, we reduce the dependence on oil.
Yes, you can sell all oil stocks or shares. You can do one more step up. Get a investment margin account. We can short sell oil stocks, and oil commodity. Short sell is simply sell now and buy later. Sell at a higher price. And then, buy a lower price. Thereby, you get profit. Another, you can invest in ultra short ETF. For example, DUG. If you invest in DUG, the pool of money is use to short oil related companies. If we all team up, it is going to work. We can make it happen. It is the selling that brings the price down. Oil is overpriced. Speculators drove the prices of oill up.
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flyboy
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 6:40:34 PM
The way to get even is to make good progress for ourselves, and help our friends and neighbors to the same.
The ideas that chopper1 offers are among the wisest I have seen anywhere on the forum.
His advice about our need to apply, "...A consistent pressure because nothing else works..." is absolutely right.
My suggestion to apply pressure, is by our not spending our money at fuel stations that ask a higher price than the station that leads the least expensive list on page one on this site. The signs at the gas stations are nothing but an advertisement of their asking price. We all can check here and go directly to the least expensive station, and report every price we drive past.
I feel better about my conduct when I drive past a station that is asking $3.75/gal. today, when it was asking $3.49 last night, and my car is burning fuel that I paid $3.45/gal. (Actually, $3.40/gal. with a coupon that everyone can get). It is difficult to appreciate the wisdom of the people who fail to get it. We don't have to give so much of our money to the gas companies. They already have too much of our money.
$3.40/gal. versus $3.75/gal., Any Questions?
There may not be a way to, "Get even" with the oil companies, but I remember the words, "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord." and I don't even try.
Indeed, I am worried about what must be the Lord's exasperation with our failure to husband the resources He has given to every one us. He gave us our freedom. Yet we permit ourselves to be led around by the media, its advertisers, and the oil companies. We all have have minds. We should use them. We all can plan our trips more carefully. We all can spend less per gallon. On and on...
[Edited by: flyboy at 8/22/2008 7:48:30 PM EST]
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zonko
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 8:22:06 AM
None of these ideas posted by NatureBoyKY will work.
Also on the credit card application, the banks send them, not the oil companies.
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chopper1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 8:00:49 AM
Kudos to rumbleseat!!!
How can we get even with the rich????
We can all hold onto the dollars we already have and quit buying all the "latest and greatest" the marketers tell us we should buy.
I've said this before but no one seems to pay attention so here goes again.
Those of us who grew up in the seventies can remember the gas lines and high prices that caused a nationwide uproar.The main difference then was that the American people put their shoulder to the wheel and we started trying to save fuel because it was good for America.There were billboard ads telling up not to be fuelish.Small imported cars got an unheard of twenty five MPG.One of the topics of regular conversation had to do with the gas mileage of your vehicle.Television commercials depicted obviously low class,ignorant people driving huge gas guzzler cars with smoke pouring out the tailpipe as objects of scorn and ridicule.
Now fast foreward thirty years.The mindset has shifted from doing anything to help America to what can I do for myself.Car commercials have us needing to buy a SUV that still only gets twenty one mpg on a good day.Now the topic of conversation has more to do with your monthly payment than the fuel saving potential.We are told to buy houses we can't afford simply because credit is available.
Now it's time for us to react.If the American people don't start using the sense Almighty God gave them (in some cases) we'll all eventually get hit with runaway inflation and the hard times that come with it.
NatureBoyKY,there is NO way to get even with oil companies.You live in Kentucky so there must be a little hillbilly blood in your veins.Hillbillys are a proud self-sufficient culture very much alive in these hills and hollers.The only thing we can do is to resist! The only way we can resist is to keep as many of the dollars we already have in our pockets.Buy quality American made products whenever we can so we only have to buy that product once insead of replacing it every few years.Hold onto the gasoline you already have by planning trips and errands.Have an older model car repaired instead of replacing it with a new one since it's been proven that repairs are the cheapest route.If you don't need it don't but it! When the retailers start seeing sales figures fall they'll have so many lobbyists running up and down the halls of government they won't be able to keep them supplied with coffecups.
Petty crimes and nuisance boycotts will do nothing,we have to bring about change with a constant pressure because nothing else works.Selling oil company stock enmasse would send a ripple through the markets but someone would still buy at the new lower price and when the stock recovered our effort would make them wealthier.It's the credit card companies that send out the oil cards so sending them back in the postage paid envelopes only cost the card company,not the oil co.Stickers could get you fined and if it's become a problem,maybe jail.
You've taken the first step in helping out by being on a message board like this one but writing a few lines here and there won't ammount to a hill of beans.Passing the word can! Actions speak louder than words so take action starting today.
See ya later neighbor!!!
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 4:50:00 AM
I'd suggest redirecting your energy into leanring about the oil markets, and how pricing works on commodity goods.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2008 3:42:07 AM
Yeah, put stickers all over the pumps. That'll show them! It will probably really impress the police officers citing you for vandalism. Tearing up applications, ridiculous, put them in the recycling! Sending them back with filthy language? Childish.
I suggest you use this site in the manner it is meant to be used, and that is to avoid the most expensive stations.
Don't like the prices, how about you use less? No matter what the price is, it leaves more in your pocket than in oil coffers.
But we will add your suggestions to the list of silly things we aren't going to do.
[Edited by: rumbleseat at 8/22/2008 4:42:27 AM EST]
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2008 9:25:19 PM
There have been some incredibly stupid ones posted here over the years. Two that come to mind: Pay for your entire bill in pennies. That'll take the clerk so long to count and that WILL bring down prices.
Huh?
The next gem: Buy $5 worth of gas, charge it, use another card, charge another $5, etc, until you've filled your tank with 5 or 6 different credit cards (assuming you have that many) and because they have to pay for all the credit cards used, the prices will come down.
Amazing, eh?
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