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DI Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:20,211 Points:4,152,295 Joined:Apr 2001	Message Posted: Jun 9, 2008 9:02:27 AM Ignore DI Report Abuse This topic is SOLELY for providing an alert that Speedway SuperAmerica (SSA) has uniformly increased the price at their Twin Cities corporate locations — in other words, SA has spiked and virtually all other Twin Cities stations will increase their price over the next 24-36 hours. Please post follow-up discussion as well as reports of individual station increases to Gas going up. Guesses, predications, and speculation about what will happen to gasoline prices should be posted to either that topic or Gasoline price speculation.

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This topic is SOLELY for providing an alert that Speedway SuperAmerica (SSA) has uniformly increased the price at their Twin Cities corporate locations — in other words, SA has spiked and virtually all other Twin Cities stations will increase their price over the next 24-36 hours.

Please post follow-up discussion as well as reports of individual station increases to Gas going up.

Guesses, predications, and speculation about what will happen to gasoline prices should be posted to either that topic or Gasoline price speculation.

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Kleen Kar Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:15,788 Points:3,236,795 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 5:06:48 PM Ignore Kleen Kar Report Abuse Please keep this for posting an increase in price only. There are many other topics to discuss all other issues. Thank you.
Philo_Gray All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:585 Points:104,655 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 2:22:49 PM Ignore Philo_Gray Report Abuse Our gas price for MN are now Higher then CA. What the....? Prices are up almost as much as when those 2 CA refineries when off line. We have not been above CA prices in over 2 years and that was only for a day or two.
andidolphin Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:20,435 Points:4,132,515 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 1:24:07 PM Ignore andidolphin Report Abuse Although there was another price increase today, FOR THE LOVE OF PEAT MOSS, TAKE OTHER DISCUSSIONS OUT OF THIS TOPIC!!! Every post made brings this topic to the top of the list, even if there is not a price increase in effect. There are plenty of other topics to discuss a wide range of issues.
TornadoRed Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,846 Points:713,895 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 12:06:24 PM Ignore TornadoRed Report Abuse nru, while it is true that some Republicans are advocates for big business, the typical Republican favors a free-market approach by government and not a pro-business approach. During his campaign, Mitt Romney seemed to be mainly free-market, though the leftwing media tried to portray him as a tool of big business. At the same time the MSM ignored Obama's ties to big business, especially to the Wall Street financial interests.
DriverDave Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:9,930 Points:1,376,445 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 11:32:03 AM Ignore DriverDave Report Abuse If I feel the urge, I'll respond to the Romney/corporate interests stuff in the 'National Political Discussion' thread. I figured SA was spiking to (at least) $4.399/gal when I saw a couple of SA locations had dropped from $4.299/gal last evening to $4.199/gal and $4.219/gal this morning. :-(
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,765 Points:986,080 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 10:24:04 AM Ignore nru Report Abuse I guess I thought that Romney was a friend of big corporate interest and would be happy when they made large profits. Must be wrong according to my conservative friends. In other words he lied about his standings on corporations - oh well, guess the conservatives have had it both ways for a long time
Woe Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:15,680 Points:2,744,850 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 9:17:23 AM Ignore Woe Report Abuse $4.39/gallon today.
Philo_Gray All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:585 Points:104,655 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 11:52:14 AM Ignore Philo_Gray Report Abuse nru LOL - that was the excuses the other guy said in the last election. "It would have been even worse with out me". What I want to see is it get better. This is like the captain of the Titanic saying things would be worse with out me. [Edited by: Philo_Gray at 5/16/2013 12:56:02 PM EST]
rjgimp Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,900 Points:1,050,620 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:49:30 AM Ignore rjgimp Report Abuse Schoms... like all good liberals, nru likes to have it both ways.
Schoms Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:249 Points:425,580 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:33:03 AM Ignore Schoms Report Abuse >> but Philo - gas would be even worse with the other guy Actually nru, according to many here, Bush and recession are linked. Recession and lower gas prices are linked. Therefore, gas would have been lower because of the recession (though many people would have a harder time paying for gas without a job in a recession)
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,765 Points:986,080 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:24:14 AM Ignore nru Report Abuse but Philo - gas would be even worse with the other guy
Philo_Gray All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:585 Points:104,655 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:07:51 AM Ignore Philo_Gray Report Abuse Look like SA is trying to create a new normal. . $5.00+ gas is around the corner. . . . DON'T BLAME ME! I voted for the other Guy! [Edited by: Philo_Gray at 5/16/2013 11:08:48 AM EST]
DriverDave Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:9,930 Points:1,376,445 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 9:45:22 AM Ignore DriverDave Report Abuse I can confirm seeing an SA with $4.299/gal posted about 30 minutes ago.
Woe Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:15,680 Points:2,744,850 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 9:20:11 AM Ignore Woe Report Abuse $4.29 a gallon today.
rjgimp Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,900 Points:1,050,620 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 2:13:55 AM Ignore rjgimp Report Abuse " ** THIS TOPIC IS ONLY FOR POSTING THE INITIAL NOTICE WHEN SA SPIKES ** There are numerous other topics available for follow-on discussion. Thanks!"-DI Then why did YOU post the following on 5/13 at 5:19pm: "nru - I'd recommend filling up at those prices (as I did last night). I estimate the minimum selling price should be increasing to about $3.82/gal." That sure looks like follow-up discussion to me, Mr Hypocrite.
sleepyhollowtoo Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:125 Points:27,975 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 12:57:44 AM Ignore sleepyhollowtoo Report Abuse Apology, I was WAY off topic. [Edited by: sleepyhollowtoo at 5/16/2013 1:59:43 AM EST]
TornadoRed Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,846 Points:713,895 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 11:28:26 PM Ignore TornadoRed Report Abuse deleted as off-topic [Edited by: TornadoRed at 5/16/2013 12:33:15 AM EST]
DI Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:20,211 Points:4,152,295 Joined:Apr 2001	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 11:21:58 PM Ignore DI Report Abuse ** THIS TOPIC IS ONLY FOR POSTING THE INITIAL NOTICE WHEN SA SPIKES ** There are numerous other topics available for follow-on discussion. Thanks! [Edited by: DI at 5/16/2013 12:24:32 AM EST]
sleepyhollowtoo Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:125 Points:27,975 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 8:00:35 PM Ignore sleepyhollowtoo Report Abuse DD: I'm not in the industry, only a consumer, and not aware of the industry pricing model/strategy. Maybe someone can enlighten me, as inquiring minds would like to know. MY question is still about the remaining 2000 gal purchased at $3.50, now retailed at $3.99? My "profit" on that is now roughly $1000 additional, while the add'l cost to me is the cost of changing my sign and pump prices, no? I realize there are add'l costs to be considered, but this is just the simplified scenario you posed.
Philo_Gray All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:585 Points:104,655 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 4:44:09 PM Ignore Philo_Gray Report Abuse 2 SA's that were 4.19 just stepped back to 3.99.
Mustanglady0008 Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:2 Points:1,150 Joined:May 2013	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 3:51:32 PM Ignore Mustanglady0008 Report Abuse From what I have seen on this website it looks like they are all going up. I will see on my home what they are. For sure tomorrow I am sure they will be up. I saw one gas station, an independent, this morning that we up to $3.99.
Philo_Gray All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:585 Points:104,655 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 2:37:25 PM Ignore Philo_Gray Report Abuse Holiday up but only 3.99 some places. Not matching SA. Way to go Holiday.
Philo_Gray All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:585 Points:104,655 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 2:36:08 PM Ignore Philo_Gray Report Abuse Dave thanks. DI say it more clearly in fewer words If it long is ok but short & 2 the point better.
DI Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:20,211 Points:4,152,295 Joined:Apr 2001	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 2:33:48 PM Ignore DI Report Abuse rjgimp can fuming but, just a reminder that this topic is for posting the INITIAL notice when SA spikes. There are numerous other topics for follow-on discussion. [Edited by: DI at 5/15/2013 3:36:33 PM EST]
DriverDave Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:9,930 Points:1,376,445 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 2:01:24 PM Ignore DriverDave Report Abuse Think about it for a minute and you should see that it's not crazy at all. Let's role play for a minute, and I admit this is simplistic but it gets the point across (I hope). You are Mr. Gas Station Owner. You have 10,000 gallons of regular unleaded gasoline (U87E10) in your storage tanks (I have no idea if this is an accurate reflection of gas station storage capacity or not), and you paid $3.50/gallon delivered for that gasoline. You're currently selling regular unleaded gas (U87E10) for $3.659/gal, so you're making 15 cents per gallon of U87E10 sold. That's decent, I'd say. It's Wednesday morning and you know that you'll need 8,000 gallons of U87E10 to refill your storage tanks by the end of the day, so you go to order more from your supplier and have it delivered on Thursday morning. You've made an average of 15¢/gal profit on those 8,000 gallons ($29,592 in gross sales, with $1200 of that as gross profit), so you think you're sitting pretty. But your supplier tells you that it's going to cost you $3.85/gallon delivered for that 8,000 gallon order. You're shellshocked at the bill - $30,800. Do you: A) Keep your price at $3.659/gallon? B) Increase your price to $3.859/gallon? C) Increase your price to $3.999/gallon? If you answered A or B, you aren't going to be a business owner very long.
sleepyhollowtoo Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:125 Points:27,975 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 1:37:24 PM Ignore sleepyhollowtoo Report Abuse I meant $4.29 wholesale/delivered.
sleepyhollowtoo Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:125 Points:27,975 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 1:27:34 PM Ignore sleepyhollowtoo Report Abuse DD: Are you really saying $3.70 gas in the ground, gas /product in the tank, bought/paid/ delivered at $3.70 is being SOLD at it's REPLACEMENT COST? THAT'S a crazy, and a CRAZY GOUGE? That's LIFO, NOT FIFO pricing. What if delivered goes to $4.29 tomorrow? Is the station still losing money on the $3.70 still in it's tank? I don't think so.
DriverDave Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:9,930 Points:1,376,445 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 1:10:40 PM Ignore DriverDave Report Abuse Philo - You are misinterpreting DI's daily pricing post. The spike threshold is our best guess at how many cents per gallon of margin (profit) gas stations are currently getting on sales of gasoline. When that number goes negative, that means there's a high likelihood that gas stations are selling either at a loss or for no profit. The -.16¢/gal spike threshold meant stations that didn't change their prices would be selling gasoline for a huge loss. It doesn't matter if they received a shipment of gasoline today or not, it's the replacement cost in play here. Yes, a station may have paid $3.699/gallon for the gasoline in their tanks this morning, but it's going to cost them a minimum of about $4.03/gal to replace it, so selling gasoline today for $3.899/gal means they are "losing" 14 cents per gallon, and I don't know of any business that would deliberately lose money like that. I hope this helps!
Philo_Gray All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:585 Points:104,655 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 12:21:08 PM Ignore Philo_Gray Report Abuse DI you pridicted -.16 Not +.35. You were way off.
rodking3 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:25,761 Points:4,206,305 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 12:19:36 PM Ignore rodking3 Report Abuse I sure am glad I read these threads. The speculative warning was there yesterday evening. The hike went off between 9 & 10 Am, but my warning from GasBuddy doesn't show until 11:23 AM. Maybe the gurus should be checking in with us.
wmderrick All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:549 Points:474,000 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 12:13:51 PM Ignore wmderrick Report Abuse Filled up in western WI for 3.79 this morning while it was 4.19 in Woodbury. $0.40 difference!!!!
Zimcity Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:65,430 Points:3,694,710 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 11:11:50 AM Ignore Zimcity Report Abuse Guess my $4.09 prediction was optimistic they wouldn't add their 10¢ margin on top of the 20¢ it went up yesterday. Oh well, topping off for $3.829 should get me to mid-next week.
Woe Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:15,680 Points:2,744,850 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:29:45 AM Ignore Woe Report Abuse Wow, it sure has gone up a lot. I still have 5 gallons of $3.69/gal gas in my garage from last week.
dlr17 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,954 Points:1,456,550 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 9:56:50 AM Ignore dlr17 Report Abuse Yes, it does, DriverDave. That brings today's retail price to more than 71 cents per gallon higher than it was a month ago in the Twin Cities area, while the price of crude oil had remained fairly stable and the U.S. average has increased only 8 cents per gallon in the last month. Someone is making some killer profits at this price.
DriverDave Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:9,930 Points:1,376,445 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 9:53:05 AM Ignore DriverDave Report Abuse Confirmed - $4.19/gal. Ouch! And holy ****, this sucks...
GasCker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:13,198 Points:2,116,470 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 9:47:26 AM Ignore GasCker Report Abuse Here we go! Looks like the trigger has been pulled, up to $4.19.
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,765 Points:986,080 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: May 13, 2013 6:51:55 PM Ignore nru Report Abuse Filled up at Costco this afternoon at 3.89 (premium) - will fill up the other car tomorrow morning at same price (they change prices about 8:45)
DI Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:20,211 Points:4,152,295 Joined:Apr 2001	Message Posted: May 13, 2013 5:19:31 PM Ignore DI Report Abuse nru - I'd recommend filling up at those prices (as I did last night). I estimate the minimum selling price should be increasing to about $3.82/gal.
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,765 Points:986,080 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: May 13, 2013 4:35:53 PM Ignore nru Report Abuse It's not holding in Burnsville - bv parkway and cty rd 5 back to 3.75
rjgimp Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,900 Points:1,050,620 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: May 13, 2013 12:57:01 PM Ignore rjgimp Report Abuse The $uperGouge near me went back to $3.89 today after having dribbled down a few pennies over the weekend.
rjgimp Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,900 Points:1,050,620 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: May 9, 2013 12:45:00 PM Ignore rjgimp Report Abuse Awe$ome!
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,765 Points:986,080 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: May 9, 2013 11:45:07 AM Ignore nru Report Abuse 3.89 for Burnsville sa's
Woe Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:15,680 Points:2,744,850 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: May 9, 2013 9:30:21 AM Ignore Woe Report Abuse DI called it last night, Zim. Both my cars and teh 5 gallon can are filled.
Zimcity Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:65,430 Points:3,694,710 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: May 9, 2013 9:27:21 AM Ignore Zimcity Report Abuse What the???
achars01 Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:6 Points:43,745 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 9, 2013 9:20:01 AM Ignore achars01 Report Abuse Looks like another hike to 3.89
rjgimp Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,900 Points:1,050,620 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 12:28:44 PM Ignore rjgimp Report Abuse Yep. A $3.79 SuperGouge is on in Roseville and Falcon Heights. Other stations still holding steady so far. Falcon Heights BP still at $3.56, Dave's still at $3.69 and the ProStop on Cleveland between 94 and University in St Paul still at $3.51.
DriverDave Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:9,930 Points:1,376,445 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 10:40:45 AM Ignore DriverDave Report Abuse So, another SA MoneyGrab© posted at stations after 9:30am instead of 9am, which is usually the case (This is one of the days I go into work later than "normal", but only until the end of the month). I wonder if this is a new trend to catch most commuters with their tanks low, if you will, or just an aberration? The SA's I drove by this morning were still at their pre-spike prices, even after 9am.
praises7 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:12,916 Points:2,399,875 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 10:17:54 AM Ignore praises7 Report Abuse Looks like its $3.79
DI Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:20,211 Points:4,152,295 Joined:Apr 2001	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 2:18:39 PM Ignore DI Report Abuse I'm responding to HEMIMANN in the General Oil & Gasoline Discussion topic since this topic is reserved for alerts of a spike.
HEMIMANN Rookie Author Twin Cities Posts:1 Points:270 Joined:Feb 2013	Message Posted: Apr 29, 2013 3:30:46 PM Ignore HEMIMANN Report Abuse There are only 2 to 3 gasoline wholesalers in all of the Twin Cities area - most of the "majors" left years ago, as we are on the edge of the "frontier" (read: low demand). Therefore there is little competition. Like clockwork, these few wholesalers raise prices on Tuesdays & Thursdays, more recently a half day earlier (late Mondays & Wednesdays). Always fill up before then. This has been going on for 10 years. Yes, SA (used to be Marathon refinery, somebody else bought it) is one of the local wholesalers & usually the first to change price. Not much we can do about it except move to where there is more competition (St. Louis, Chicago, etc.) [Edited by: HEMIMANN at 4/29/2013 4:33:08 PM EST]